[Advaita-l] Narada Purana - Returning to earth even after attaining the Vaishnava-Parama pada

[Krishna Kashyap]

The Karya Vaikunta concept is well-known among Visistadvaita adherents. The
main issue there is if Sanaka, Sanandana, and so on were angry at the
Jaya-vijayas who stopped them from entering Vaikunta, how can such foremost
of Rsis have anger?  How can the dwara palakas of Vaikunta be so ignorant
as to stop those Rsis, and many such questions arise. A simple solution is
that the Vaikunta in question is just the Karya Vaikunta and not the real
Vaikunta. The Dvaitins sometimes state that the gatekeepers, such as Jaya
Vijay, are not really inside Vaikunta but at the periphery. Hence very
small amount of krodha and shaapa, and other such activities are possible.
Each system comes up with some kind of justification in this context.

Justification of Vaikunta is seriously discussed in other works such as
tattva mukta kalapa and so on.

*Best Regards,*

*Krishna Kashyap*




On Tue, Aug 12, 2025 at 11:40 PM V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
wrote:

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> On Tue, Aug 12, 2025 at 10:12 PM Krishna Kashyap <kkashyap2011 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Puranic Vishnu Loka and the Rigvedic Vaishnava-Parama pada (Tad VishnoH
>> paramam Padam - a Rgvedic passage), are considered different from each
>> other.
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>
> Namaste
>
> In the Bhagavatam, Jaya-Vijaya episode, there occurs a verse with the term
> vaikuntha:
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> अथ ते मुनयो दृष्ट्वा नयनानन्दभाजनम् ।
> वैकुण्ठं तदधिष्ठानं विकुण्ठं च स्वयंप्रभम् ॥ २७ ॥  3.16.27
>
> After seeing the Lord of Vaikuṇṭha, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, in
> the self-illuminated Vaikuṇṭha planet, the sages left that transcendental
> abode.
>
> Sridhara swamin's commentary:
>
> नेत्रोत्सवजनकं विकुंठं हरिं तन्निवासं च वैकुंठलोकम् । स्वयं प्रकाशं
> प्रकाशांतरानपेक्षम् । सत्त्वपरिणामत्वात् ।। २७ ।।
>
> Vikunṭha = Hari.  Vaikunṭha - His residence Vaikunṭha loka. It is
> Self-luminous, does not require any other illuminating agency, since it is
> a transformation of sattva (guna).
>
> Found this in the Srimat Ahobila māhātmyam collected in the Ramanuja
> resources site: As per this, the Jaya-Vijaya episode is in the *kārya
> vaikuntha*; a term found in a book. But the* tad vishnoH paramam padam is
> not cited here*:
>
>
> 3. श्रीमदहोबिलमाहात्म्यम् Part 2
> श्रुतम् विस्तरतो ब्रह्मन् माहात्म्यम् हयमेधसः । नारसिम्हाधिष्ठितानाम्
> क्षेत्राणाम् सुखसङ्ग्रहम् ॥ १ ॥ इदानीम् श्रोतुमिच्छामो देवस्य हयमेधसः ।
> कथमासीत्समुद्भूतिः स्तम्भे सम्भावितात्मनः ॥ २ ॥ कथम् विरोध उत्पन्नो जनकस्य
> सुतस्य च । एताम् विस्तरतो ब्रूहि कथाम् नृहरिसम्श्रिताम् ॥ ३ ॥ श्रीनारदः
> *वैकुण्ठाख्ये कार्यलोके* श्रीभूमिसहितो हरिः । आस्ते विष्णुरमेयात्मा
> भक्तैर्भागवतैः सह ॥ ४ ॥ सनकाद्याः मुनिवराः सदा हरिपरायणाः । स्वयम् आगत
> विज्ञाना: निवृत्तिम् धर्मम् आश्रिताः ॥
> ५ ॥ बाल्यात् अनुपनीताश्च दिगम्बर पदाश्रिताः । भगवन्तमथो द्रष्टुम्
> नारायणमनामयम् ॥ ६ ॥ वैकुण्ठपुरमाजग्मुः अनिवारित चेष्टिताः । तन्मध्ये
> भगवद्दाम नानामणिविचित्रितम् ॥ ७ ॥ हेम प्राकारसम्युक्तम् पताकाभिः अलङ्कृतम्
> । दिव्यैः मणिमयैः कान्तैः गोपुरैश्च विचित्रितम् ॥ ८ ॥ परितः कल्पतरुभिः
> सारिकाशुकसेवितम् ।
> मण्डितम् पुण्डरीकाक्ष मन्दिरम् विविशुः तदा ॥ ९ ॥ विशमानास्तु ते सर्वे
> वारिता द्वारपालकैः ॥ १० ॥* तत्र द्वौ द्वारपालौ तु जयश्च विजयस्तथा । तौ तु
> पुण्यविशेषेण भगवद्वारमाश्रितौ ॥*
>
> regards
> subbu
>
>>
>> term vishnu means: vishlr-vyAptau. The term Vishnu can be used for Vishnu
>> as a devata, as well as for Vishnu as Para-Brahman (as in Sarva-Vyapaka).
>> The term vaikunta is also a multi-purpose word.
>>
>> Vaikunta directly can mean parama purusha, as in Vaikuntah purushah
>> piranha.... of sahasranama. Please check Shankara bhashya here.
>>
>> Vaikunta means dhama vachaka sometimes, and Sanskrit term means - vigatha
>> kunta - kunta is limitation, vaikunta means - limitless or infinite (or
>> ananta).
>> Hence, these terms are interpreted based on context and other criteria.
>>
>> For example, the term Atma can be used to refer to self, mind, jivatma,
>> paramatma, Brahman, and so on.
>>
>> Thanks to the flexibility of Sanskrit, or is it mega-confusion?
>>
>>
>>
>> *Best Regards,*
>>
>> *Krishna Kashyap*
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