[Advaita-l] Narada Purana - Returning to earth even after attaining the Vaishnava-Parama pada

[Swagata Chowdhury]

Concept of Karya Vaikhunta,Karan Vaikhunta or Karya Rudraloka, Karan
Rudraloka etc mentioned in Shiva Puran Vidyeshwar Samhita ch. 17
beautifully.

On Wed, 13 Aug 2025, 8:36 am Krishna Kashyap via Advaita-l, <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> The Karya Vaikunta concept is well-known among Visistadvaita adherents. The
> main issue there is if Sanaka, Sanandana, and so on were angry at the
> Jaya-vijayas who stopped them from entering Vaikunta, how can such foremost
> of Rsis have anger?  How can the dwara palakas of Vaikunta be so ignorant
> as to stop those Rsis, and many such questions arise. A simple solution is
> that the Vaikunta in question is just the Karya Vaikunta and not the real
> Vaikunta. The Dvaitins sometimes state that the gatekeepers, such as Jaya
> Vijay, are not really inside Vaikunta but at the periphery. Hence very
> small amount of krodha and shaapa, and other such activities are possible.
> Each system comes up with some kind of justification in this context.
>
> Justification of Vaikunta is seriously discussed in other works such as
> tattva mukta kalapa and so on.
>
> *Best Regards,*
>
> *Krishna Kashyap*
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 12, 2025 at 11:40 PM V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 12, 2025 at 10:12 PM Krishna Kashyap <kkashyap2011 at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Puranic Vishnu Loka and the Rigvedic Vaishnava-Parama pada (Tad VishnoH
> >> paramam Padam - a Rgvedic passage), are considered different from each
> >> other.
> >>
> >
> > Namaste
> >
> > In the Bhagavatam, Jaya-Vijaya episode, there occurs a verse with the
> term
> > vaikuntha:
> >
> > अथ ते मुनयो दृष्ट्वा नयनानन्दभाजनम् ।
> > वैकुण्ठं तदधिष्ठानं विकुण्ठं च स्वयंप्रभम् ॥ २७ ॥  3.16.27
> >
> > After seeing the Lord of Vaikuṇṭha, the Supreme Personality of Godhead,
> in
> > the self-illuminated Vaikuṇṭha planet, the sages left that transcendental
> > abode.
> >
> > Sridhara swamin's commentary:
> >
> > नेत्रोत्सवजनकं विकुंठं हरिं तन्निवासं च वैकुंठलोकम् । स्वयं प्रकाशं
> > प्रकाशांतरानपेक्षम् । सत्त्वपरिणामत्वात् ।। २७ ।।
> >
> > Vikunṭha = Hari.  Vaikunṭha - His residence Vaikunṭha loka. It is
> > Self-luminous, does not require any other illuminating agency, since it
> is
> > a transformation of sattva (guna).
> >
> > Found this in the Srimat Ahobila māhātmyam collected in the Ramanuja
> > resources site: As per this, the Jaya-Vijaya episode is in the *kārya
> > vaikuntha*; a term found in a book. But the* tad vishnoH paramam padam is
> > not cited here*:
> >
> >
> > 3. श्रीमदहोबिलमाहात्म्यम् Part 2
> > श्रुतम् विस्तरतो ब्रह्मन् माहात्म्यम् हयमेधसः । नारसिम्हाधिष्ठितानाम्
> > क्षेत्राणाम् सुखसङ्ग्रहम् ॥ १ ॥ इदानीम् श्रोतुमिच्छामो देवस्य हयमेधसः ।
> > कथमासीत्समुद्भूतिः स्तम्भे सम्भावितात्मनः ॥ २ ॥ कथम् विरोध उत्पन्नो
> जनकस्य
> > सुतस्य च । एताम् विस्तरतो ब्रूहि कथाम् नृहरिसम्श्रिताम् ॥ ३ ॥ श्रीनारदः
> > *वैकुण्ठाख्ये कार्यलोके* श्रीभूमिसहितो हरिः । आस्ते विष्णुरमेयात्मा
> > भक्तैर्भागवतैः सह ॥ ४ ॥ सनकाद्याः मुनिवराः सदा हरिपरायणाः । स्वयम् आगत
> > विज्ञाना: निवृत्तिम् धर्मम् आश्रिताः ॥
> > ५ ॥ बाल्यात् अनुपनीताश्च दिगम्बर पदाश्रिताः । भगवन्तमथो द्रष्टुम्
> > नारायणमनामयम् ॥ ६ ॥ वैकुण्ठपुरमाजग्मुः अनिवारित चेष्टिताः । तन्मध्ये
> > भगवद्दाम नानामणिविचित्रितम् ॥ ७ ॥ हेम प्राकारसम्युक्तम् पताकाभिः
> अलङ्कृतम्
> > । दिव्यैः मणिमयैः कान्तैः गोपुरैश्च विचित्रितम् ॥ ८ ॥ परितः कल्पतरुभिः
> > सारिकाशुकसेवितम् ।
> > मण्डितम् पुण्डरीकाक्ष मन्दिरम् विविशुः तदा ॥ ९ ॥ विशमानास्तु ते सर्वे
> > वारिता द्वारपालकैः ॥ १० ॥* तत्र द्वौ द्वारपालौ तु जयश्च विजयस्तथा । तौ तु
> > पुण्यविशेषेण भगवद्वारमाश्रितौ ॥*
> >
> > regards
> > subbu
> >
> >>
> >> term vishnu means: vishlr-vyAptau. The term Vishnu can be used for
> Vishnu
> >> as a devata, as well as for Vishnu as Para-Brahman (as in
> Sarva-Vyapaka).
> >> The term vaikunta is also a multi-purpose word.
> >>
> >> Vaikunta directly can mean parama purusha, as in Vaikuntah purushah
> >> piranha.... of sahasranama. Please check Shankara bhashya here.
> >>
> >> Vaikunta means dhama vachaka sometimes, and Sanskrit term means -
> vigatha
> >> kunta - kunta is limitation, vaikunta means - limitless or infinite (or
> >> ananta).
> >> Hence, these terms are interpreted based on context and other criteria.
> >>
> >> For example, the term Atma can be used to refer to self, mind, jivatma,
> >> paramatma, Brahman, and so on.
> >>
> >> Thanks to the flexibility of Sanskrit, or is it mega-confusion?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *Best Regards,*
> >>
> >> *Krishna Kashyap*
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
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