[Advaita-l] Weather vedas are considered as false in ultimate reality?

Harsha Bhat harsha9519 at gmail.com
Fri Jul 31 22:45:34 CDT 2015

Namaste Siva Sir,
                                          Thanx for explanation........
Can you please tell the that full vakhya of  Br. Up. 4.3.22 and  Bramhasutra

Harsha Bhat

On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 2:27 AM, Siva Senani Nori <sivasenani at yahoo.com>

> The quoted sentence does not mean that Vedas are false ultimately. It is
> that Vedas have a specific purpose - to teach Brahman, and once that object
> is accomplished, they do not apply any longer.
> The sentence referred by you occurs in Br. Up. 4.3.22. This is also quoted
> in the Bhashya on Bramhasutra 4.1.3. (वेदाः अवेदाः इति वचनात् इष्यते एव
> अस्माभिः श्रुतेः अपि अभावः प्रबोधे - due to the Sruti vaakya "vedAH
> avedAH", absence of Sruti is indeed desired by us in the state of
> enlightenment).
> In Adhyaasabhaashya, Bhagavatpada says अविद्यावद्विषयाणि एव प्रत्यक्षादीनि
> प्रमाणानि शास्त्राणि च (All pramanas like perception (pratyaksha) and
> Sastras (including Vedas) are subject to avidyaa). So, once avidyaa is
> removed those dependent on it, such as pramaanas (there is no difference
> amongst pramaatR, prameya, pramA and pramANa in the paaramaarthika view)
> and Saastras (which is the main pramaaNa in knowing Brahman) also dissolve
> into Brahman.
> It is well known that Sannyaasins are not bound to perform any Vedic
> ritual - that is why they remove their Yajnopavitam. Whether they be
> enlightened or not, the intent is to reach a plane which is beyond Veda.
> However they do not ever say that Vedas are false ultimately.
> Regards
> N. Siva Senani
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> reality?
> Namaste,
>                                           Weather in any upanishad or
> vedas ,they say vedas as "Aveda"?.
> What is the pramana to say that vedas are false in ultimate reality?
> For that one advaitha pandith gave me a vakhya "Vedaha Avedaha"...and he
> says that this vakhya is from veda only...which says vedas are false in
> ultimate reality.
> Weather this vakhya is really present in any veda (upanishad)?
> Can any learned scholar tell in which veda (Upanishad)..the vakhya "vedaha
> avedhaha"..is present...and also tell me the meaning of this verse ,if this
> vakhya really exists...
> regards,
> Harsha Bhat
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