[Advaita-l] Which one is first in the creation sequence

H S Chandramouli hschandramouli at gmail.com
Wed Feb 26 23:23:28 CST 2014

Dear Sri Venkatashamurthyji,

You wrote  <<  Creation in Drishti Srishti Vada is simultaneous. Because
when That One saw
> at that same time simultaneously ALL Creation happened. The Four Varnas
> Rishis, animals, all the worlds and the whole creation happened
> and simultaneously.>>

Can you please clarify where exactly this has been stated in shruti/bhashya
? Prima facie it appears to me to be in contradiction to Karika 2-16 (
vaitathya prakarana, verse 16 ). I would be grateful if the verse itself
can be elaborated upon.



On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 2:03 AM, ramesh badisa <badisa66 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Namaskaram.
> At the beginning of email, I would like to seek your forgiveness for
> raising a silly question. I could not figure out the answer for myself. So,
> I am requesting all members to help me.
> My confusion was related to two Bhagawad Gita slokas -
> 4/13 (chatur varnyam ...)  &
> 10/6 (Maharsayah Sapta ..).
> The first sloka talks about four varnas. So, it is obvious that it is
> concerned to the creation;
> The second sloka talks about creation of seven great sages by the Lord.
> This is also concerned to the creation.
> My confusion was that which one stands first in the creation.
> If you say, "it doesn't matter", then, sorry the matter ends there.
> However, if you would like to help me, please read further.
> Is it 4/13 first or 10/6 first
> When there is no creation, then, there are no varnas.
> Similarly, when seven great sages were born, there are no four varnas but
> only one varna - the first varna.
> For me, it appears that the classification of varnas by Lord came much
> later after the creation. Please correct me if I am wrong.
> Namaskaram,
> ramesh
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