[Advaita-l] In defense of Advaita and Vivarta-Vada
sridhar.nithin at gmail.com
Thu Nov 21 22:26:10 CST 2013
Why did the Brahmins forsake their Dharma in first place? It is because
they were also overtaken by desires of material pleasures. This itself show
that the Brahmana Guna's like Indriya Nigraha was lacking. Previously,
one's Guna, Jati and Varna Dharma all were aligned.
But,today as its Kali yuga, everything is messed up. Its good if Brahmins
leave their hypocrisy and superior feelings and start practicing their
Dharma to the best of their abilities. But, if we find someone from other
jati having Brahmana Guna, we should help him perform the Brahmana Dharma
That was my point. Of course, only a Guru can properly judge the Guna and
need of people.
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Sujal Upadhyay <sujal.u at gmail.com> wrote:
> P.Y.S refer to Patanjali Yoga Sutra :)
> कृतार्थ प्रति नष्टमऊयनष्ट तदन्यसाधारणत्वात् ॥ २२ ॥
> 2.22 Though the object of experience becomes unreal to him who has reached
> the state of liberation, it remains real to all otehr beings.
> P.Y.S. by Swami Prabhavananda of Ramakrishna Ashram, Page 90
> Another translation.
> 2.22 For the one who has attained the goal [of liberation, the seen]
> disappears [yet, the seen] is not destroyed because of it's common
> krta = done
> arthan = purpose, goal
> prati = towards, for
> naSta = destroyed
> api = even though
> anaSTam = not destroyed
> tad = that
> anya = other
> sAdhAraNatvAt = because of, due to commonality, universality
> Kriya Yoga Sutras of Patanjali and the Siddhas by Marshal Govindan, Page,
> The author has also connected it with Thirumandiram.
> Nitin: This was written on an impulse in reply to someone who was
> criticizing Advaita. :)
> Though article was written as an impulse, it can be refined when our head
> is cool. I did the same with my website :). We can leave the article for a
> few days and some back again to edit it.
> Adi Shankara in his Gita BhASya teaches us not to leave our svadharma. This
> is reflected in his commentary on verses 3.35, 4.13, 18.41 - 46,48 which
> talk about varNa dharma.
> It's too big to copy paste, please visit
> search for 'Lets
> talk them in brief w.r.t. Shankara BhASya'
> Nitin: About Varna, you are right.But, today the system is so much
> corrupted and people have forsaken Dharma that, Birth no longer is in line
> with Guna.
> I know, but guNa is present in sub-conscious mind. So if a Brahmin takes up
> his original job of learning and doing karma kand, then we will be able ot
> grasp subject easily. One may also feel rush of spiritual energy, as a
> Brahmin is authorized to perform our karma. God never says what to do. He
> has given us intellect, which can be a boon or a curse. God has also given
> us Free Will :)
> Sujal Upadhyay
> "To disconnect from the self and to become Aware of anything else is
> nothing but unhappiness" - Bhagawan Ramana Maharshi
> He who has faith has all
> He who lacks faith, lacks all
> It is the faith int he name of lord that works wonders
> FAITH IS LIFE, DOUBT IS DEATH - Sri Ramakrishna
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 8:42 PM, Nithin Sridhar <sridhar.nithin at gmail.com
> > Thank you for your feedback. This was written on an impulse in reply to
> > someone who was criticizing Advaita. :) I would definitely go through the
> > reference you have provided. Can you tell me which book does "P Y S"
> > to?
> > If anybody want to use my write ups for collection and posting at one
> > place, they can do so. In my blog Understanding Hinduism, I do try to
> > down my thoughts on various aspects of Hinduism.
> > About Varna, you are right.But, today the system is so much corrupted and
> > people have forsaken Dharma that, Birth no longer is in line with Guna.
> > This is something I had written on it-
> > -Nithin
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