[Advaita-l] Discussion on Vairagya

Dr. V. Prasanna Shrinivas vpshri at gmail.com
Thu Aug 2 01:10:16 CDT 2007


If one says that he cannot see himself dying because the self does not
die but sees others die...that is contradictive...for the self is only
one...it can be you "self" and someone elses. Either he sees self in
everything or nowhere...Just as Ramana says, "The doctor will tell if
your wife is pregnant or not...there is no half pregnant quarter

Sadguro Saranam

On 8/1/07, viswanathan n <vishy39 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Namaste
> While going thru this posting regarding one thing really struck me.
> ""Day after day countless people die. Yet the living wish to live
> forever. O Lord, what can be  greater wonder?"
> I think this can certainly be viewes  from the other angle.
> Day after day we keep seeing other people die. True. But has anyone ever
> seen him'self' Dying???
> No...No one can, because the Self never dies. When self never dies how it
> can watch its own death. So what we are seeing as others dying is mere
> illusion. Like wise the birth too, no one has seen his own birth.(whether it
> is the even of comming out of mother's womb or the conception itself)
> When you understand this, ie, both birth and death are mere illusions, how
> can you gat attched to anything? When there is no sort of attachment where
> is the question of Vairagya and what for??
> Pranams
> Viswanath
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> >
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> >Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 11:38:24 -0700
> >From: "Dr. V. Prasanna Shrinivas" <vpshri at gmail.com>
> >Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Discussion on Vairagya
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> >Namaste
> >
> >In yaksha prasna when asked what is the greatest wonder Yudishtira responds
> >
> >"Day after day countless people die. Yet the living wish to live
> >forever. O Lord, what can be  greater wonder?"
> >
> >How profound. We see our near and dear depart. Yet we always believe
> >it will never happen to us. Or atleast feel comfortable thinking that
> >way.
> >
> >Just not in this birth, we have had several births where we have
> >experienced the loss of our near and dear. Inspite of this, we have
> >not achieved viveka/vairagya.
> >
> >The truth is we love ourselves so much than anything else. We have
> >also experienced birth and death in so many janmas. Yet, we have not
> >achieved viveka/vairagya.
> >
> >Hence there is nothing new that we have to experience to realize the
> >truth. All that is required is washing of this vasanas acquired which
> >can happen only on surrendering to a sadguru as that is paramount.
> >
> >there is no question of not doing sadhana. The very fact that one is
> >initiated into a sadhana also happens by His grace. The guru
> >constantly tests the maturity of the sishya and also gives the latter
> >the strength to overcome the obstacles in the path of sadhana.
> >
> >Sadguro Saranam
> >
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