[Advaita-l] The liberated souls and Brahmaloka
sjayana at yahoo.com
Sat Mar 6 10:05:26 CST 2004
--- rohit ubhayaker <rohit8ganesh at yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> S Jayanarayanan <sjayana at yahoo.com> wrote:
> --- rohit ubhayaker wrote:
> > Of the four muktis mentioned Saalokya , Saaroopya , Saamipya
> > and Saayujya , only the fourth indicates Nirguna mukti . The
> > Puraanas testify to this .
> I've not been following the discussions on this thread, but the above
> statements are incorrect. In his VivekachUDAmaNi bhAshhya,
> H.H.Chandrashekhara BhAratI says that NONE OF THE FOUR - sAlokya,
> sArUpya, sAmIpya and sAyujya - refer to "mukti in the true sense of
> Applying this logic to the four muktis , having reached
> Saayujya , the previous three are no longer valid . Not only
> this , even Saayujya can no longer be classified as such
There is no logic in what you're saying.
I think you've failed to grasp what HH is trying to say. sAyujya is
simply NOT mukti, as mukti is BEYOND sAyujya also. In other words, in
the advaitic sense, there is sAlokya, sAmIpya, sArUpya, sAyujya, and
"mukti in the true sense of the word".
You've taken a stray verse out of the purANas, where the word "mukti"
is used differently than in philosophical advaitic texts. There is
absolutely no basis for your claim whatsoever.
> Remember , in the Avadhootageetaa , Shri Datta says "..in that
> state neither Advaita nor dvaita remains ." This does not in
> any way deny Advaita .
You've gone to a totally unrelated verse now. The above verse from the
avadhUta gItA is not to be interpreted as denial of the ontological
status of the philosophies at the vyAvahArika level. The denial is only
at the pAramArthika level.
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