[Advaita-l] The liberated souls and Brahmaloka
rohit8ganesh at yahoo.co.in
Sat Mar 6 03:21:38 CST 2004
S Jayanarayanan <sjayana at yahoo.com> wrote:
--- rohit ubhayaker wrote:
> Of the four muktis mentioned Saalokya , Saaroopya , Saamipya
> and Saayujya , only the fourth indicates Nirguna mukti . The
> Puraanas testify to this .
I've not been following the discussions on this thread, but the above
statements are incorrect. In his VivekachUDAmaNi bhAshhya,
H.H.Chandrashekhara BhAratI says that NONE OF THE FOUR - sAlokya,
sArUpya, sAmIpya and sAyujya - refer to "mukti in the true sense of the
We find a similar statement in Ramana Maharshi's "uLLadu nArpadu" as
well: "If it is said, that Liberation is of three kinds, with form or
without form or with and without form, then let me tell you that the
extinction of three forms of Liberation is the only true Liberation."
Dear Saadhakas ,
Yes , P.P.Shrimad Chandrashekara Bhaarati Mahaasvaamiji is right as He refers to the state of Brahman . In the Final State none of these remain . However , through saadhanaa , Saayujya may be considered as Advaita .
This akin to saying that four avasthaas are there , of which the fourth is Turiyaa . But , having attained Turiyaa , none of the four are valid . Even Turiyaa as a separate state does not remain .
Applying this logic to the four muktis , having reached Saayujya , the previous three are no longer valid . Not only this , even Saayujya can no longer be classified as such
Remember , in the Avadhootageetaa , Shri Datta says "..in that state neither Advaita nor dvaita remains ." This does not in any way deny Advaita .
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