[Advaita-l] Re: e-vedanta course

Srikrishna Ghadiyaram srikrishna_ghadiyaram at yahoo.com
Wed Nov 12 14:47:07 CST 2003

hariH Om !!

--- Ram Chandran <rchandran at cox.net> wrote:
> Namaste Sri Ragavendra:
> Please understand that this course is offered in the
> name of an Research and Educational Foundation.
> Swamiji on his own does not prefer to give any
> certificate but if the students demand a certificate
> (which the student consider it to be of high value)
> the teacher doesn't want to antogonize the student. 
> We were all students at one time or other and
> whenever we take it as an educational course, we
> consider certificate as a proof of our success. 
> I wish everyone in the universe is as enlightened
> like you, willing to pay without looking for
> anything in return. Unfortunately, there is plenty
> of igorant people who look for a certificate after
> paying a fee!  Once again, we try to judge others
> using an inappropriate scale. All the things that we
> did it as children are not appropriate when we are
> adults. Those who pay the fees to get a certificate
> are ignorant and for intelligent and knowlegeable
> people like you, it is a laughting matter! One-size
> doesn't fit all and that may explain why certificate
> is being offered to those who seek it. Some who
> worship the Lord, instead of asking his Grace for
> ever, look for small favors! The Lord does satisfy
> the needs of His devotees! Ignorant devotees look
> for the small and the intelligent one doesn't expect
> any material benefits from Him! 
> Swamiji receives thousands of dollars from devotees
> and most of them don't look for any name
> recognition.  But some devotees do demand such
> recogniztion and institutions are practical and
> forced to become more flexible! Many people who
> donate money to the temple look for a certificate -
> printed permanantly on the walls of the temples. Who
> should be blamed for this? Please take a time and
> contemplate! There are also people who donate
> millions without asking and without looking for
> returns. All I can say is, this is all part of the
> 'mAyA' of the mAyAvi! 

So, why not a cheaper, low-priced alternative for
those we do not can not donate $ 350 ???

> Finally, even in Padasalas, when students complete
> the vedic courses, they are provided with titles -
> Sastrigal, Ganapatigal, Srowthigal, etc., etc.,
> according to their level of learning!  Let us not
> jump into conclusions without looking into all the
> facts!

Becasue the degrees referred above have relevance in
the Indian society for recognition and livelyhood, and
they can fulfill a social need/demand for qualified
and reliable, and well trained people/priests etc. for
social/religious ceremonies and such schools. But,
this certificate course has no meaning to grown up
adults, except to decise that those people can become
study-group leaders etc. (new ideas coming, as we
already put the cart before the horse, we should push
the cart than to pull it) All, if someone cares.

Personally, it would have been intereting if it was
done to motivate young kids. By the way why does not
the Bala Vihar program have certificates ? Do you know

Om Namo Narayanaya !!

> regards,
> Ram Chandran
> > I have nothing to say regarding charging a fee for
> > offering the vedAnta course, but I dont
> > understand the purpose of giving a certificate. Do
> gurus 
> > give certificates to disciples after
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