[Advaita-l] [advaitin] PTB parayan - advice requested
Ananta Chaitanya [Sarasvati]
bhatpraveen at gmail.com
Mon Jul 13 22:29:09 EDT 2026
Namaste Subbuji,
It skipped the initial part of शक्तत्वात् also, but this is common in AIs
to skip some parts, especially if you give long passages and well-known
texts where they may have training data. It gives an error if I put any
text longer than 4 padas even for gadya. How did you get such a long
passage work in a single unit?
Also the reading is like chanting. It sounds good as pArAyaNa but not for
study IMO. I am planning to go with reading styles not chanting for
bhAShya-TIkA.
Another thing to note is that with 10 chants of segments per day, this
might be another endless task!
Kind rgds,
--Ananta Chaitanya
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On Mon, Jul 13, 2026 at 11:33 PM V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Dear Raghav Ji,
>
> I tried a Sutra Bhashya passage:
>
> कथं पुनः सर्वगतस्य परमात्मनः परिमाणोपदेश इत्यत्र ब्रूमः —
>
> हृद्यपेक्षया तु मनुष्याधिकारत्वात् ॥ २५ ॥
> द्विरूप
> सर्वगतस्यापि परमात्मनो हृदयेऽवस्थानमपेक्ष्याङ्गुष्ठमात्रत्वमिदमुच्यते;
> आकाशस्येव वंशपर्वापेक्षमरत्निमात्रत्वम् । न ह्यञ्जसा अतिमात्रस्य
> परमात्मनोऽङ्गुष्ठमात्रत्वमुपपद्यते । न चान्यः परमात्मन इह ग्रहणमर्हति
> ईशानशब्दादिभ्य इत्युक्तम् । ननु प्रतिप्राणिभेदं
> हृदयानामनवस्थितत्वात्तदपेक्षमप्यङ्गुष्ठमात्रत्वं नोपपद्यत इत्यत
> उत्तरमुच्यते — मनुष्याधिकारत्वादिति । ‘शास्त्रं ह्यविशेषप्रवृत्तमपि
> मनुष्यानेवाधिकरोति; शक्तत्वात् , अर्थित्वात् , अपर्युदस्तत्वात्
> उपनयनादिशास्त्राच्च — इति वर्णितमेतदधिकारलक्षणे’ (जै. सू. ६ । १) ।
> मनुष्याणां च नियतपरिमाणः कायः; औचित्येन नियतपरिमाणमेव चैषामङ्गुष्ठमात्रं
> हृदयम् । अतो मनुष्याधिकारत्वाच्छास्त्रस्य
> मनुष्यहृदयावस्थानापेक्षमङ्गुष्ठमात्रत्वमुपपन्नं परमात्मनः । यदप्युक्तम् —
> परिमाणोपदेशात् स्मृतेश्च संसार्येवायमङ्गुष्ठमात्रः प्रत्येतव्य इति;
> तत्प्रत्युच्यते — ‘स आत्मा तत्त्वमसि’ इत्यादिवत् संसारिण एव
> सतोऽङ्गुष्ठमात्रस्य ब्रह्मत्वमिदमुपदिश्यत इति । द्विरूपा हि
> वेदान्तवाक्यानां प्रवृत्तिः — क्वचित्परमात्मस्वरूपनिरूपणपरा;
> क्वचिद्विज्ञानात्मनः परमात्मैकत्वोपदेशपरा । तदत्र विज्ञानात्मनः
> परमात्मनैकत्वमुपदिश्यते; नाङ्गुष्ठमात्रत्वं कस्यचित् । एतमेवार्थं परेण
> स्फुटीकरिष्यति — ‘अङ्गुष्ठमात्रः पुरुषोऽन्तरात्मा सदा जनानां हृदये
> सन्निविष्टः । तं *स्वा*च्छरीरात्प्रवृहेन्मुञ्जादिवेषीकां धैर्येण । तं
> विद्याच्छुक्रममृतम्’ (क. उ. २ । ३ । १७)
> <https://advaitasharada.sringeri.net/display/bhashya/Kathaka/devanagari?page=2&id=Ka_C02_S03_V17&hl=%E0%A4%85%E0%A4%99%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%97%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%B7%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%A0%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%A4%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%83%20%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%B7%E0%A5%8B%E0%A4%BD%E0%A4%A8%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%A4%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%A4%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%BE%20%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%A6%E0%A4%BE%20%E0%A4%9C%E0%A4%A8%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%A8%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%82%20%E0%A4%B9%E0%A5%83%E0%A4%A6%E0%A4%AF%E0%A5%87%20%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%A8%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%A8%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%B7%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%9F%E0%A4%83%C2%A0%E0%A5%A4%20%E0%A4%A4%E0%A4%82%20%E0%A4%B8%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%9A%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%9B%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%A4%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%B5%E0%A5%83%E0%A4%B9%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%A8%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%9E%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%9C%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%A6%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%B5%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%B7%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%82%20%E0%A4%A7%E0%A5%88%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AF%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%A3%C2%A0%E0%A5%A4%20%E0%A4%A4%E0%A4%82%20%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%A6%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%9A%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%9B%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%83%E0%A4%A4%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%8D> इति
> ॥ २५ ॥
> The audio rendering skipped letters in two places, one I have highlighted
> above. Here's the link to the audio. Please follow closely and point out
> any other thing that needs repair.
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1I_wVYCgrUUYJNJcfJFwh9SdljbC8Di5P/view?usp=sharing
> I don't know if it can be improved. It's nice to hear. The voice sounds
> like that of Dr. Pratosh, as I have heard him speak at various venues.
> I think our people can use this tool by giving ample credit to it.
> Warm regards
> subbu
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2026 at 10:45 PM Raghav Kumar Dwivedula via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
>> Dear Subbuji
>> Please see this for what you suggested - AI reading sanskrit prose.
>>
>> https://prathosh.in/vagbodhini/
>>
>> I tried it with a few lines from adhyāsa bhāṣya and it seemed to work
>> fine.
>>
>> Om
>> Raghav
>>
>> On Mon, 13 Jul 2026 at 7:09 AM, V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l <
>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>
>> > A very good initiative indeed. However could you think of using AI for
>> > this? Just now we have seen someone has made a voice output of the
>> > Mahabharata etc. if such a thing can be made for reading out the
>> Prasthana
>> > Traya Bhashyam that would make the work much easier. But a lot of
>> checking
>> > and verification will have to be done before it is put in public domain.
>> >
>> > Several years back late Sri Sundar Hattangadi made his own voice
>> recording
>> > of the Bhagavad Gita bhashya and put it on archives.org.
>> >
>> > About a year back a friend commenced recording in a studio his own
>> reading
>> > of the Upanishad bhashya taking the blessings of the Sringeri Jagadguru.
>> > But it is not progressing. They encountered challenges in recording.
>> > Mistakes occur while reading out the words, splitting them etc. A tough
>> job
>> > indeed for such a huge project. That is why I think AI could be a better
>> > option to achieve this.
>> >
>> > Best regards
>> > subbu
>> >
>> > On Mon, 13 Jul, 2026, 2:59 am aham brahmaasmi, <
>> > ahambrahmaasmi137 at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hari: Om ! Nama: Sarvebhya:!
>> > >
>> > > I am working on creating a PTB parayan channel. (audio-visual). It
>> is
>> > > hoped that this might be of help to sadhakas.
>> > >
>> > > Here it is : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu5rHtBqhhQ.
>> > >
>> > > You may not be able to view it due to the viewing restrictions
>> currently
>> > > placed on it. The videos in these have my Math's and
>> > > Shringeri Math's logos. The plan was to submit this at the Holy Feet
>> of
>> > my
>> > > Guru and Ubhaya JagadGurus first. IF their approval was obtained, I
>> would
>> > > open it all else.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > However, a significant illness and hospitalisation for 6 weeks has
>> put me
>> > > back. I may not be able to travel to India this Chaturmas for the
>> > > submission.
>> > >
>> > > I seek all of your wise counsel on :
>> > >
>> > > 1) Do you think this project might be useful for sadhakas?
>> > > if yes, 2) how can I submit this remotely ?
>> > > 3) until such time that the Guru's permissions are obtained, will it
>> be
>> > > acceptable to circulate these videos which have the logos of both
>> Maths
>> > on
>> > > them?
>> > >
>> > > Thank you,
>> > > Sakshi
>> > >
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