[Advaita-l] [advaitin] ​Happiness as the nature of the self, svarUpa of mokSha.

V Subrahmanian v.subrahmanian at gmail.com
Wed Jan 7 12:57:12 EST 2026


In the Panchadashi it is said that for the manifestation of the Ananda
aspect in the waking (and by extension, in dream), one needs to cultivate
more sattva. The chit and sat aspects manifest naturally. In BSB Shankara
says in the very first sutra: सर्वो हि आत्मास्तित्वं प्रत्येति, न
नाहमस्मीति |  यदि हि नात्मास्तित्वप्रसिद्धिः स्यात् , सर्वो लोकः ‘नाहमस्मि’
इति प्रतीयात् । आत्मा च ब्रह्म ।  Everyone experiences his own existence;
no one says ' I am not'. If the popular natural idea of 'I exist' were not
there, everyone would experience 'I do not exist.' Atman is Brahman. This
includes the chit aspect too.

regards
subbu

regards
subbu

On Wed, Jan 7, 2026 at 5:27 PM Ananta Chaitanya [Sarasvati] <
bhatpraveen at gmail.com> wrote:

> Namaste Chandramouliji,
>
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2026 at 4:33 PM H S Chandramouli <hschandramouli at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Namaste Ananta Chaitanya Ji,
>>
>> Reg  // The recollection of sleeping happily and not knowing anything
>> (else) shows that the sat-chit aspects are veiled while Ananda is manifest
>> //,
>>
>> I am not sure if you are presenting this statement as unique to VS.
>>
> I never said that it is the view of VS.
>
>
>
>> In the traditional version, the very fact that I am able to recollect
>> that * I * was happy shows the manifestation of the *sat * aspect  during
>> deep sleep.
>>
> I am not sure if you read the entire post. The manifestation of sat is not
> the way it is in jAgRt and svapna. That is the contrast shown. If it is the
> same in all three states, there is no parIkShA needed. The statement for
> analysis is sukhamaham asvApsam, not sadahamasvApsam. Just by aham being
> there, sat and chit cannot be brought in. The aham is not recollected the
> way sukham is. There are so many such analytical flaws that can shown in
> each avasthA then. And every aspect can be established in any
> avasthA. Ananda can be established in jAgRt itself and then we won't need
> to analyse suShupti at all. The idea is to contrast it across states; that
> is why you have to read prAyeNa there.
>
> I was not aware of anything ( else ) shows that I was aware of the veiling
>> meaning thereby the manifestation of the chit aspect. In fact recollection
>> of this anubhava this is held to be  conclusive for claiming the
>> manifestation of avidyA during deep sleep.
>>
> As above.
>
>
>
>> I am not touching upon other issues I find with this post due to
>> inability in participating in long discussions on too many topics.
>>
> I don't think there will be a long discussion even if you point of
> anything you find as an issue. I am also unable to participate in
> discussions, but I did want to share this post and quickly reply, when
> possible.
>
> gurupAdukAbhyAm,
> ananta
>
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