[Advaita-l] multi universes and powers
Aravind M
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Thu Jul 24 10:13:42 EDT 2025
Swami Dayananda ""There is not ONE GOD...there is ONLY GOD ""
On Thu, 24 Jul, 2025, 7:26 pm Jyotiranjan via Advaita-l, <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> Is dhAma's like goloka,vaikuntha are nitya or they destroy at the time of
> mahapralay?
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> Narayan
> Jyotiranjan Routray
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> On Thu, Jul 24, 2025, 17:41 Bhaskar YR via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
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> > praNAms
> > Hare Krishna
> >
> > >
> > > Maybe the answer you are seeking lies in analysing the following. It
> > > is from the Saubhagyabhaskara commentary to the Sri Lalita Sahasra
> Nama:
> > >
> > > अनेककोटिब्रह्माण्डजननी दिव्यविग्रहा || १७५ || This is a nama there
> > > for which the commentary explains:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > अनेका अनन्ताः कोटयो ये ब्रह्माण्डास्तेषां जननी जनयित्री |
> > >
> > > यद्वा अनेककोटयो ब्रह्माण्डा येषां ते तथा |
> > >
> > > अभिमन्यमानत्वादिरूपः सम्बन्धः षष्ठ्यर्थः | तेषां विराडादीनां जननीम् |
> > >
> > > There are many Brahmanda-s, universes, each of which has a Virāt,
> > > Hranyagarbha, Ishwara, etc. She is the Janani for these so many Virāt,
> > etc.
> >
> > > other male Gods too have this title : akkhilaanda kOti brahmAnda
> > nAyaka....
> >
> > > If we say the Trimurtis are the Virat, etc. then She is the Janani of
> > > the Trimurtis too. Then we can say that the Trimurtis in one Brahmanda
> > > will have jurisdiction over that Brahmanda only.
> >
> > > And from this we can also say there are multiple paarvati-s,
> Lakshmi-s,
> > Saraswati-s, Ganesha-s, Subramanya etc. etc. ??
> >
> >
> > Since Bhagavatpada
> > > says in the Brihadaranyaka bhashya, Hiranyagarbha is both jiva and
> > > Brahman from diff points of view, we can say the Trimurtis are
> > > different jivas in diff brahmandas.
> >
> > >> mahAn Atma and tiny jeeva differentiated here to clarify the
> > difference between avyAkruta and avidyA, I don’t think it is there is
> > declare trimuthy-s are just another set of jeeva-s. If that is the case
> > who is Ishwara here?? Is he another jeeva??
> >
> > > Trimurtis being considered jivas may not go down too well with some.
> > Although Brahmaa ji is often given jiva status.
> >
> > > Let us not think about others, do you yourself agree that trimurthy-s
> > are just another set of three jeeva-s and gained this position through
> > their meritorious karma ....like indra padavi??
> >
> > The famous Bhagavatam verse is there where brahmas of different
> brahmandas
> > with differing numbers of faces, all come and pay their respects to Sri
> > Krishna Bhagavan - its pic by ISKCON / gaudiya tradition is rather
> > memorable I think.
> >
> > > so who is nArAyaNa here?? Before creation and after mahA pralaya??
> >
> >
> > One other problem is if Lalita Devi (saguṇa Brahman) is anekakoTi
> > brahmANda jananI what about her consort Lord Shiva? Is he the Lord of one
> > universe or Lord of the multiverse?
> >
> > > as said above there must be multiple shiva-s, Ganesha-s, nandi-s etc.
> > to maintain the shiva's family intact in each and every brahmAnda,
> likewise
> > family members of vishNu and chaturmukha brahma 😊
> >
> >
> > There may be infinite regress unless we acknowledge the existence of
> > certain forms of Ishvara including Shiva, Parvati , Vishnu etc as having
> > Aishvaryam of the entire multiverse and these aspects of saguNam brahma
> are
> > not-limited-to-one-universe.
> >
> > > And if the above is true in literal sense, then we have to accept that
> > sarvajnatva of brahma restricted to the particular brahmaanda where he is
> > operating 😊
> > Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
> > bhaskar
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