[Advaita-l] multi universes and powers

[Jyotiranjan]

Is dhAma's like goloka,vaikuntha are nitya or they destroy at the time of
mahapralay?




Narayan
Jyotiranjan Routray

On Thu, Jul 24, 2025, 17:41 Bhaskar YR via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> praNAms
> Hare Krishna
>
> >
> > Maybe the answer you are seeking lies in analysing the following.  It
> > is from the Saubhagyabhaskara commentary to the Sri Lalita Sahasra Nama:
> >
> > अनेककोटिब्रह्माण्डजननी दिव्यविग्रहा || १७५ ||  This is a nama there
> > for which the commentary explains:
> >
> >
> >
> >       अनेका अनन्ताः कोटयो ये ब्रह्माण्डास्तेषां जननी जनयित्री |
> >
> > यद्वा अनेककोटयो ब्रह्माण्डा येषां ते तथा |
> >
> > अभिमन्यमानत्वादिरूपः सम्बन्धः षष्ठ्यर्थः | तेषां विराडादीनां जननीम् |
> >
> > There are many Brahmanda-s, universes, each of which has a Virāt,
> > Hranyagarbha, Ishwara, etc. She is the Janani for these so many Virāt,
> etc.
>
> >  other male Gods too have this title :  akkhilaanda kOti brahmAnda
> nAyaka....
>
> > If we say the Trimurtis are  the Virat, etc. then She is the Janani of
> > the Trimurtis too. Then we can say that the Trimurtis in one Brahmanda
> > will have jurisdiction over that Brahmanda only.
>
> >  And from this we can also say there are multiple paarvati-s, Lakshmi-s,
> Saraswati-s, Ganesha-s, Subramanya etc. etc. ??
>
>
>  Since Bhagavatpada
> > says in the Brihadaranyaka bhashya, Hiranyagarbha is both jiva and
> > Brahman from diff points of view, we can say the Trimurtis are
> > different jivas in diff brahmandas.
>
> >>  mahAn Atma and tiny jeeva differentiated here to clarify the
> difference between avyAkruta and avidyA, I don’t think it is there is
> declare trimuthy-s are just another set of jeeva-s.  If that is the case
> who is Ishwara here??  Is he another jeeva??
>
> > Trimurtis being considered jivas may not go down too well with some.
> Although Brahmaa ji is often given jiva status.
>
> >  Let us not think about others, do you yourself agree that trimurthy-s
> are just another set of three jeeva-s and gained this position through
> their meritorious karma ....like indra padavi??
>
> The famous Bhagavatam verse is there where brahmas of different brahmandas
> with differing numbers of faces, all come and pay their respects to Sri
> Krishna Bhagavan - its pic by ISKCON / gaudiya tradition is rather
> memorable I think.
>
> >  so who is nArAyaNa here?? Before creation and after mahA pralaya??
>
>
> One other problem is if Lalita Devi (saguṇa Brahman) is anekakoTi
> brahmANda jananI what about her consort Lord Shiva? Is he the Lord of one
> universe or Lord of the multiverse?
>
> >  as said above there must be multiple shiva-s, Ganesha-s, nandi-s etc.
> to maintain the shiva's family intact in each and every brahmAnda, likewise
> family members of vishNu and chaturmukha brahma 😊
>
>
> There may be infinite regress unless we acknowledge the existence of
> certain forms of Ishvara including Shiva, Parvati , Vishnu etc as having
> Aishvaryam of the entire multiverse and these aspects of saguNam brahma are
> not-limited-to-one-universe.
>
> >  And if the above is true in literal sense, then we have to accept that
> sarvajnatva of brahma restricted to the particular brahmaanda where he is
> operating 😊
> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
> bhaskar
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