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[Sudhanshu Shekhar]

Namaste Raghav ji.

AvaraNa-kritya is defined as नास्ति न प्रकाशत इति व्यवहार
एवाभिज्ञादिसाधारणः; अस्ति प्रकाशत इत्येतद्व्यवहाराभावो वा आवरणकृत्यम् ।

AvaraNa is defined as आवरणं च तद्योग्यता (आवरणकृत्यस्य-योग्यता)
अज्ञानसंबन्धरूपा.

These both are in Advaita Siddhi - avidyAyAh vishayatva vichArah. They are
based on VivaraNa statement - अविद्यासम्बन्धत्वादेव आवरणस्य.

BAlabodhinI clearly says on page 1361 - चैतन्ये अविद्यासम्बन्ध एव आवरणम्

//Can we say avidyA is the veil while AvaraNa is veiling 'process' by which
shuddha-cit gets veiled and so we say avidyA-cit-*sambandha* for AvaraNa?//

I think AvaraNa is a shakti of avidyA, through which avidyA produces
AvaraNa-kritya. In a way, shakti-shaktimAna-abheda tells us that avidyA and
AvaraNa would be non-different. Also, avidyA is not a material cause of
avidyA-chit-sambandha but merely vyApaka. So, their swarUpa-sambandhatA can
also be argued. In fact, at one place, it is asserted also:-

*Alternatively, avidyA-chaitanya-sambandha is avidyA-Atmaka i.e.
avidyA-mAtra and hence comes within the purview of lakshya. Since there
cannot be samyoga sambandha or samavAya sambandha (as it is between
avayava-avayavI, guNa-guNI, kriyA-kriyAvat, jAti-vyakti,
vishesha-nityadravya) between avidyA and chaitanya, it necessarily has to
be swarUpa-sambandha. Since swarUpa-sambandha is sambandhI-anatirikta, it
has to be avidyA. Thus, avidyA-chaitanya-sambandha is avidyA itself. Hence,
there is no ativyApti.*

So, I think much deliberation on AvaraNa-avidyA relationship may not be
very productive.

Regards.
Sudhanshu Shekhar.

On Thu, Sep 5, 2024 at 5:18 PM Raghav Kumar <raghavkumar72 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Namaste Sudhanshu ji
> Can you please elaborate on the idea that AvaraNa is avidyA-cit-sambandha?
> Is there any place this distinction is dealt with?
>
> Can we say avidyA is the veil while AvaraNa is veiling 'process' by which
> shuddha-cit gets veiled and so we say avidyA-cit-*sambandha* for AvaraNa?
>
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> I would just make one correction.
>
> //So, mUlAvidyA is like that blindfold, which is capable of veiling
> Brahman.//
>
> Actually, the statement is not correct. AvaraNa is defined not as avidyA,
> but as avidyA-chit-sambandha, which is avidyA-prayukta. So, it is
> avidyA-vyApya but not avidyA itself.
>
> To that extent the previous post may be modified.
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> Regards.
> Sudhanshu Shekhar.
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