[Advaita-l] [advaitin] Mandukya bhashya. Ignorance seed in sushupti

H S Chandramouli hschandramouli at gmail.com
Sat Jul 1 03:47:48 EDT 2023


Namaste Subrahmanian Ji,

Absolutely yes. No disputes on that.

Regards

On Sat, Jul 1, 2023 at 11:59 AM V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Jul 1, 2023 at 9:33 AM H S Chandramouli <hschandramouli at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Namaste Venkat Ji,
>>
>> Reg // How would one describe the cause in terms of the effect - is it
>> the same as the effect? is it different? In advaita we refer to it as
>> tAdAtmya, but it is neither bheda nor abheda //,
>>
>> Can you please give any reference to this. In my understanding, Cause is
>> not described in terms of the effect at all.
>>
>
> We have this Bhashya 1.4.2 vaakya -   प्रकृतिशब्दश्च विकारे दृष्टः — यथा ‘
> गोभिः श्रीणीत मत्सरम्’ (ऋ. सं. ९ । ४६ । ४) इति ।   श्रुतिश्च — ‘तद्धेदं
> तर्ह्यव्याकृतमासीत्’ (बृ. उ. १ । ४ । ७)
> <https://advaitasharada.sringeri.net/display/bhashya/Brha?page=1&id=BR_C01_S04_V07&hl=%E0%A4%A4%E0%A4%A6%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%A7%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%A6%E0%A4%82%20%E0%A4%A4%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B9%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%B5%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%83%E0%A4%A4%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B8%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A4%E0%A5%8D>
>  इतीदमेव व्याकृतनामरूपविभिन्नं जगत्प्रागवस्थायां परित्यक्तव्याकृतनामरूपं
> बीजशक्त्यवस्थमव्यक्तशब्दयोग्यं दर्शयति ॥ २ ॥
>
>   The meaning is: prakriti = Cause, is seen to be used in place of vikaara
> = effect.  The Acharya gives a passage from the Rg Veda samhita where the
> word 'gobhih' is used in place of milk which is a product of the cow.
>
> And the Br.Up. itself uses this method: the world, an effect of the tattva
> called Avyaakrita, is denoted by the name of the cause, Avyaakrita.
>
> The context is: which word in the Katha mantra under discussion matches
> the gross body.  It is settled by the Bhashyakara that the word 'avyaktam'
> is the one that denotes the gross body? He reasons: Avyakta, being the
> cause of the pancha bhutas, is that way the cause of the gross body.  Here
> the effect, gross body, is denoted by the cause, avyakta.
>
> regards
> subbu
>
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