[Advaita-l] Binary nature of Jnana

Venkatraghavan S agnimile at gmail.com
Sun Jul 17 05:31:14 EDT 2022

Namaste Raghav ji

On Sun, 17 Jul 2022, 09:01 Raghav Kumar Dwivedula via Advaita-l, <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> The effect of earlier janma's sAdhanas (this effect being short of the
> pramA) is stored as samskAra. This samskAra in a later janma triggers the
> arising of "the essence of the akhaNDa vAkyArtha" which in turn produces
> pramA. I understand you to be talking of such a 2-step onset.
Yes, I had this in mind.

> >
> One question that arises here in this 2-step process is whether the
> "essence of the akhaNDa-vAkyArtha" which functions as the sAxAt pramANa in
> the later janma is in the form of atleast a few recollected words (shAbdam)
> or it can be without any recollected words at all?

It need not be the recollection of the words, it need not even be a
recollection that such a knowledge is from words - but if sufficient
sAdhana has happened  the vAkyArtha can arise as an akhaNDArtha. It is
shAbda not jnAtosatI, but svarUpasatI - ie it has arisen from shabda, but
it is not known to the individual as having risen from shabda.

> Because if the "essence" is not shAbda it's not clear how the following two
> are different.
> 1. "Essence of akhaNDA vAkyArtha" being the pramANa in the later janma.
> 2. the samskAra (of all sAdhanas short of pramA) itself is sufficient to
> mediate and trigger the delayed onset of the pramA at the appropriate time.
> Like I said if 1. involves shabda recollection while 2. does not, then 1.
> stands distinguished it from 2. Otherwise both would be called
> smaraNatmaka.
It could be shabdArtha recollection short of the akhaNDa-mahAvAkyArtha
(e.g. tat padArtha, tvam padArtha, or a saprakAraka jnAna of the
mahAvAkya). If one has a lot of experience identifying the lakshyArtha of
the tat and tvam padArtha, and practicing to identify with the lakshyArtha,
practicing seeing them as one, but has stopped short of knowing them as
one, that samskAra can later trigger the instantaneous experience of "I am
all this".

Also, for the jnAna to be shAbda it is sufficient if the meaning has arisen
from words, one need not know that the meaning has arisen from words.


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