[Advaita-l] Fwd: Atman, Ever the Present

[sreenivasa murthy]

 Dear Sri Kaushik Chevendra,
Why do you bring in Ishvara into picture?Ishvara is parokSha.Atman is sAkshAt and aparOkShAt.Please confine yourself to Atman only in your replies.Kindly know the meaning and spirit of the following words of Sruti :Mantravit &Atmavit; SrOtRiyam & brahmaniShTham .The words uttered by one who is only an information provider 
are of no use at all to a genuine student of Vedanta.Please study the following :
(1)Sri Shankara’scommentary to mantra 2-2 0f Kena Upanishad :

EvaM  AcAryOktaH SiShyaH  EkaNtE  upaviShTaH samAhitaH san yathOktamAcAryENa Agamam arthatO vicArya, tarkataScanirdhArya SsvAnUBavaM  kRutvA  AcAryasakASamupagamyOvAca  manyE ahamathEdAniM viditaM brahmEti ||

 

(2)vEdAhamEtaMpuruShaM mahaM-

      tamAdityavarNaM tamasaH parastAt ||

I know the greatPurusha, who is luminous, like the sun and beyond darkness. 

[Svetasvatara Upanishad;3-8]

 

(3) aNuHpanthA vitataH purANO

mAgMspRuShTaH anuvittO mayyaiva || 
[BruhadaranyakaUpanishad 4-4-8]
The above have a bearing upon my posting.
With respectful namaskars,Sreenivasa Murthy.



    On Monday, 5 December, 2022 at 05:02:07 pm GMT, Kaushik Chevendra <chevendrakaushik at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Namaste sir.



Your reply has no bearing upon my questions.Whatever has to be accepted as truth only when verified in one's ownanuBava.
The existence of isvara doesn't come by anubhava. Should he be denied? And when you say that after anubhava only one should accept anything as truth is not in line with the vaidika sampradaya. The phala of punya karma will only come after death or in next janma, so will you deny the existence of karma phala which is adristha and leave the Nithya and naimethika karma?The realisation of Brahman as one's own self comes through shravana and manana of the Shruthi vakyas such as "tatvam asi" etc. So the unshakable faith in Shruthi and guru vakya presupposes the very realisation of the knowledge.I hope you understand the problem with your question.
Namo narayana