[Advaita-l] Questions regarding the Isa Upanishad verse 1

H S Chandramouli hschandramouli at gmail.com
Sun Oct 25 09:13:46 EDT 2020


Also in what sense are you addressing the Swamiji as **blessed**, ** highly
blessed** etc so repeatedly? In a derogative sense??


On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 6:35 PM H S Chandramouli <hschandramouli at gmail.com>

> Namaste.
> Reg  <<  Doubt: How can something that is not full be
> "ever-enduring"...also, since
> it is a part and hence not "ever-enduring" it is not real...is the blessed
> Swami contradicting himself?  >>,
> Where in this portion has the Swamiji stated what you have attributed to
> him here
> Regards
> On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 9:25 AM Kartik Vashishta via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>> OM
>> Revered Self,
>> Sadar Pranam,
>> Blessed be thou, I have some doubts on reading the blessed Sri Sri Swami
>> Krishnananda Ji's book. Please kindly remove my doubts:
>> https://www.swami-krishnananda.org/essay/essay_1.html
>> That is full; this is full. From the full the full proceeds. Taking the
>> full from the full, the full alone remains. That Absolute is full. This
>> created being is also full. Brahman is infinitude and is therefore full.
>> That which proceeds from the full or the infinite must be either real or
>> unreal. If it is real, it must also be full, because a part cannot be
>> ever-enduring, and that which is not always enduring is not real.
>> Doubt: How can something that is not full be "ever-enduring"...also, since
>> it is a part and hence not "ever-enduring" it is not real...is the blessed
>> Swami contradicting himself?
>>  If it is unreal, nothing proceeds at all. This means to say that either
>> infinity is the product of infinity or nothing proceeds from infinity.
>> Infinity cannot proceed from infinity, because, thereby, there would be
>> two
>> infinities. Hence, the proceeding of infinity from infinity does not
>> change
>> infinity, because infinity alone remains even after that. The drift of the
>> statement is that infinity is unchanging and this mantra is a figurative
>> way of saying that nothing proceeds from infinity.
>> Doubt: How did the Swami arrive at this conclusion, please, nblessed be
>> thou, explain.
>> Even the idea of something proceeding from infinity is based on its
>> essential character of infinity. That which is produced, namely,
>> Hiranyagarbha, or the universe, must be infinite. Otherwise there should
>> be
>> something outside Hiranyagarbha, or the universe. The universe includes
>> space, also, and beyond space there is nothing. Therefore, the universe is
>> infinite. Even the individual that is created is essentially infinite.
>> Taking infinity from infinity is only an idea and not a possibility.
>> Doubt: The blessed and highly blessed Swami seems to suggest that there
>> are
>> two more i"infinities" besides Brahman, namely, Hirayanaghabrbha and the
>> individual self. Please blessed be thou, explain.
>> Therefore, the infinite alone exists without change in past, present and
>> future. Om Santih, Santih, Santih - May the three tapas (afflictions)
>> cease, and may there be peace.
>> Doubt: Hari Om! By the grace of God/Guru, I probably understand this,
>> however, not the reasoning behind it as stated in my questions above.
>> All this is pervaded by the Lord, whatever is moving (and not moving) in
>> this world. By such renunciation enjoy (or protect). Do not covet the
>> wealth of anyone. Vasyam or avasyam means fit to be dwelt by or clothed by
>> or covered over by. The universe is to be covered over by the
>> consciousness
>> of God. It means that God indwells every being of the universe. But this
>> indwelling does not in any way create a distinction between the indweller
>> and the indwelled. The Lord exists as the innermost Self of all. The Self,
>> however, cannot pervade itself. Pervasion, here, means existence. The
>> universe in essence is the truth of God Himself. It does not exist as an
>> object to be covered over by God, like cloth, etc. There is nothing in
>> this
>> universe which can have any value or being without the existence of God.
>> This is to say that God is the sole existence.
>> Doubt: How is "The Self, however, cannot pervade itself" that to be
>> explained?
>> Pranam,
>> OM
>> Kartik Vashishta
>> OM
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