[Advaita-l] Advaithic Question on the Nature of MAYA and Illusory nature of Reality

Sadananda Chandrashekaraiah sadananda41 at gmail.com
Sat Aug 29 03:46:47 EDT 2020


I thank everyone who tried to respond to this discussion. I feel
overwhelmed for the great response the question got. I went through the
whole thread. 🙏🙏🙏.
I am not a textbook learner. My knowledge of Advaitha is just Aparoksha
Anubhuthi series of Swami Sarvapriyananda on Youtube and other few teachers
on Youtube and spotify podcasts.

Thank you Bhaskar Sir for bringing this example, because of which there
were so many clarifications afterwards.

Thank you Subbu Sir for the elaborate explanations of Swami Vidyaranya.
information in Verses  155, 156, 157. gave me something to think about, And
also created new doubts.

*155. It is said by the Shruti that Jiva and Ishvara are creations of Maya,
being reflections of Atman in it. Ishvara is like the reflection of the sky
in the cloud; Jiva is like the reflection of the sky in water.156. Maya is
comparable to a cloud and the mental impressions in the Buddhi are like the
water-particles which make up the cloud. The reflected consciousness in
Maya is like the sky reflected in the water-particles of the cloud.157.
Shruti says that this (pure universal) consciousness reflected in Maya is
Ishvara which controls Maya as well. The great Ishvara is the inner ruler,
omniscient and cause of the universe. *

I am of the understanding,
Brahman (universal Consciousness / Awareness / Bliss / Purusha / Eshwara /
INCONCEIVABLE) [Same as Atman within everyone] + Prakruthi ( Shakthi /
Inherent expressing ability of the Brahman)  =  Jagath ( when Brahman

Therefore When one sees this material world knowing the background he will
land at the INCONCEIVABLE.

Isn't it Jeeva the same as Jeevatma / Atman (in us) / Brahman /Ishwara
(universal) ?  Is not Eshwara [(god) (Saguna Brahman)] the same as
Jeevatma/Atman (Nirguna Brahman) within everyone ?
Anyways, As you say the wer of maya is also something which is very
powerful to conceive.

Thank you both Bahaskara Sir and Chandramouli Sir for explanations on the
differences and similarities in YOGA and Advaitha Vedantha.

I have no clashes between the two in my understanding. In my understanding,
Vedantha dissolves even the Yogic god to Brahman and thereby leading to
Higher Reality. But there is absolutely no difference in the truths except
the approaches and views in conceiving it. Anyways As stated in the
beginning i am just a toddler with few youtube lectures seeking for all the
gurus here for understanding. 🙏🙏🙏 I am convinced at least intellectually
that the ' Ball Is Brahman' 😀

Thank you Smasspress Ji  for this treasure. Yes I am aware of Swami
Tadatmananda and Arsha Boda. I, Infact i discoverd him through Youtube and
later started with his Mahabharatha series. Still lot to cover. I will go
through them.

Sadananda Chandrashekaraiah

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:16 PM smallpress <smallpress at ymail.com> wrote:

> Sadananda Ji,
> I don't claim to be knowledgeable. I am only an avid student. I recommend
> the study of Drig Drishya Viveka.
> The Maya has 2 shaktis, powers. Avarna (Obscuration) and Vikshepa
> (Projection)
> If you know the Rope and Snake analogy you will understand how this works.
> Maya shakti *projects*
> the Snake when all there is is Rope. The Avarna is of the mind, and the
> Vikshepa is of Brhmam.
> https://arshabodha.org/teachings/drig-drishya-viveka/
> On Friday, August 28, 2020, 3:18:25 AM EDT, Sadananda Chandrashekaraiah
> via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> Hi all knowledgeable people,
> I have a question to clarify,
> "" How does Maya project Brahman as this illusory Universe ? What is the
> mechanism by which this illusion is created.""
> In the path of enquiry I am currently in this stage where I am not
> satisfied with the answer ' it just appears as it is'. Even for water to
> appear in a gaseous state the inherent energy levels within molecules have
> to be high enough to be sparse apart to appear as vapours and the contrary
> in ice cubes. If we take this as an example, even for something to appear
> in different states it has to undergo some process like solidification or
> gasification like in this case.
> I just want to understand the visible universe with more coherent
> explanation than it just appears as it.
> Can someone knowledgeable give me some layman's explanation on this doubt ?
> Regards,
> Sadananda Chandrashekaraiah
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