[Advaita-l] REFERENCES FROM VARIOUS PURANAS, UPANISHADS, SASTRAS WHERE VISHNU, RAMA, KRISHNA DON BHASMA TRIPUNDRA AND VISHNU IS A PARAMA SHIVA BHAKTA

Bhaskar YR bhaskar.yr at in.abb.com
Thu Jan 17 03:02:56 EST 2019


Such a situation needs to be addressed. And the only way for this is to counter the bigoted positions and present the 'other' position and articulate the balanced position.

praNAms Sri Subbu prabhuji
Hare Krishna

Yes, what you are conveying is true.  But look at the subject heading of this thread, a Shaiva would definitely feel proud of his 'daddy' and would be audacious enough to prove hara is superior to hari since hari is wearing the symbols of hara 😊  and such a biased viewpoints (like prof. SKR's view that nowhere there is a mention that bhagavatpAda wearing the tripundra though popular photographs showing him wearing tripundra)   are definitely not an attempt of balanced view or hari-hara abedha instead it is trying to prove hara is more powerful and superior to hari, like vaishNava-s do to show hari is superior to hara.  IMHO, this is not at all necessary for the Advaita followers who needs to be taught 'abedha' right from the word go.  Anyway, it is my opinion.  

Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
bhaskar

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On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 11:17 AM Bhaskar YR via Advaita-l < advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> praNAms Sri Sriram prabhuji
> Hare Krishna
>
> For we advaitins, it is immaterial whether Shiva is great or Vishnu is 
> great; for us it is 'मायाशबल ब्रह्म' ... Yes, for personal worship, 
> one can consider मायाशबल ब्रह्म to be Rama, Krishna, Shiva, Vishnu, Devi etc.
>
> > yes, for the advaitins hari, hara, devi etc. saguNa brahma (kArya 
> > brahma
> or sOpAdhika brahma) only nothing more nothing less than that, and it 
> is immaterial for us who is superior to who  and who is inferior


Dear Bhaskar ji,

What you say is true. Even Dr.B N K Sharma (famous author of many Dvaita related works in English), has said in a paper published in 1931-32 'Genuine Advaitism has no quarter to give to either Shiva or Vishnu'.





> to who and who wears what and in which shape since all are capable of 
> giving the mumukshu the 'krama mukti' 😊 But it is quite amusing to 
> read our advaitins perspective (ofcourse in the zeal of showing hara 
> is noway inferior to hari) that is trying to convince the readers that 
> hara is superior and hari (Vishnu) too wearing the bhasma to 
> propitiate hara 😊
> This is,  in my opinion, clearly shows, we the socalled advaitins too 
> somehow bigoted to prove some deity Is superior to some other deity.
> Though all these have been said to efface the bigoted views of 
> dvaitins (Shaiva-s and vaishNava-s), we, ourselves, succumbing to this 
> "my daddy strongest" trap without our knowledge.
>

Actually you have given  the reason too as to why some Advaitins take to portray a position that might look 'bigoted'. The point is when a person who is a beginner in Advaita is exposed to bigoted positions of Vaishnavas denigrating Shiva, Devi, etc. and the branding of puranas as taamasic and that too by saying that they will go to hell, and if his Ishta devata is Shiva or any other which is not Vishnu, or his sampradaya is so, there will be confusion caused in his mind as to what the correct position is. The problem is aggravated when even Shankara and other early Advaitins are misrepresented by Vaishnavas. Such a situation needs to be addressed. And the only way for this is to counter the bigoted positions and present the 'other' position and articulate the balanced position. This alone will help those who are on the verge of getting misguided.

warm regards
subbu


>
> and in due course of vedanta-chintana, one has to drop-off this 
> अभिनिवेशः and transcend the petty aspects ....That is why during 
> 'vedanta-chintana', one is advised to shake off all his previously acquired concepts.
>
>
>
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