[Advaita-l] Fwd: Rama and Krishna are Jiva-s - Mahabharata
kalyan_kg at yahoo.com
Wed May 24 12:14:57 EDT 2017
Yes, Mbh is not the only source. I talked about Mbh because the original poster, Sri Subrahmanian, referred to it.
Yes, Shankara's definition of Ishwara is broad, but he unambiguously considers Krishna as Ishwara.
For your third point, the idea that Vishnu is Ishwara is present in the upanishads (narayana suktam). If it were not present, even Shankara would not have accepted. So the vaishnavas are well justified in calling themselves as vedantins. Shaivas too would be similarly justified.
On Wed, 5/24/17, Praveen R. Bhat <bhatpraveen at gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Fwd: Rama and Krishna are Jiva-s - Mahabharata
To: "Kalyan" <kalyan_kg at yahoo.com>
Cc: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>, "Venkata sriram P" <venkatasriramp at yahoo.in>
Date: Wednesday, May 24, 2017, 4:03 PM
On Wed, May 24, 2017 at
9:14 PM, Kalyan <kalyan_kg at yahoo.com>
Because the Mahabharata does not give scope for such an
interpretation. The central theme of Mbh is that when dharma
declines, Ishwara himself descends to earth to restore
order. M.Bh. is not
the only source to know who Ishvara is.
In Mbh, this Ishwara is
Krishna. Shankara also gives a similar summary in his intro
to gita bhashya.
definition of Ishvara is not Krishna known as Vasudeva putra
or even Vishnu sitting elsewhere in some
Vaishnavas might pray to
Shiva. But I am pretty confident that Vishnu alone is the
moksha giver for them.
//On a related
matter, I do not know as
to why those who call themselves as
Vedantins, following Advaita
Vedanta take to a non-Vedanta
source as having more authority in their
Not sure what you are trying to say here.
that "giver of moksha" being Vishnu as some
deity is established from non-Upanishad source, then it
cannot be called as Vedanta doctrine.
--Praveen R. Bhat
सर्वं विजानाति, तं केन
विजानीयात्। Through what
should one know That owing to which all this is known!
[Br.Up. 4.5.15] */
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