[Advaita-l] Fwd: Rama and Krishna are Jiva-s - Mahabharata

Kalyan kalyan_kg at yahoo.com
Sat May 20 14:07:01 EDT 2017

Looks like advaitins are a divided lot since Shankara and Madhusudhana Saraswati consider Krishna as Ishwara and the latter considers Rama also as Ishwara.


On Sat, 5/20/17, V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Fwd: Rama and Krishna are Jiva-s - Mahabharata
 To: "sreenivasa murthy" <narayana145 at yahoo.co.in>, "Advaitin" <advaitin at yahoogroups.com>
 Cc: "V Subrahmanian" <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>, "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
 Date: Saturday, May 20, 2017, 2:37 PM
 2017-05-20 13:23 GMT+05:30
 sreenivasa murthy <narayana145 at yahoo.co.in>:
 > Dear Friends,
 >    In what way  it
 is going to help/benefit one by knowing whether Rama
 > and Krishna are Jivas or Avatars or gods?
 Is it the goal of the study of
 > Vedanta
 / Upanishads?  Is it not a waste of time and energy to go
 > discussing such fruitless subjects?
 Instead of such discussions is it not
 much better to devote and energy to know one's true
 Atmasvarupa? Please
 > ponder over and
 think about it.
 Dear Sir,
 Upanishad says: Ishvarānugrahādeva pumsām
 advaitavāsanā. Shankara has
 said in the
 Brahma sutra bhashya: tadanugraha hetukenaiva hi jnānena
 mokṣasiddhir bhavitumarhati.  Thus, in order
 to attain the knowledge of
 one's true
 svarupa, one has to have Ishvara's grace. Ishvara's
 grace can be
 had only by worshiping Him. In
 order to know who is Ishwara and who is not,
 such a discussion becomes relevant.
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