[Advaita-l] Dayanand Saraswathi interview - Very interesting stand taken by Swami

V Subrahmanian v.subrahmanian at gmail.com
Fri Jan 27 11:31:26 CST 2017

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 6:53 PM, Kripa Shankar via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Namaste Praveen,
> Even self inquiry cannot be the cause of jnana. As Sadananda has already
> stated, there is no tvam padaartha which differentiates the Vedantic
> method. Go on, come up with a justification for that :D
> I am just saying he is not a Vedantin and his teachings are not Vedanta.


*Questioner: "How are we to treat others?**"*

*Ramana Maharshi: "There are no others."*

The pinnacle of Vedāntic realization has been taught by Shankara thus:

परमात्मव्यतिरेकेण अन्यस्याभावं विस्तरेण अवादिष्म । [Bṛ.up.bh
<http://xn--nig.up.bh>āṣyam 4.4.6]

[We have elaborately stated already the *non-existence (absence) of any
other* than the Supreme Self.]

The above realization is based on the following:

Bṛ.Up.Bh <http://xn--nig.up.bh>āṣyam: 3.5.1 concluding paragraph:

ब्रह्मैव सर्वमिति प्रत्यय उपजायते । स ब्राह्मणः कृतकृत्यः, अतो ब्राह्मणः ;
निरुपचरितं हि तदा तस्य ब्राह्मण्यं प्राप्तम् ; अत आह — स ब्राह्मणः केन
स्यात् केन चरणेन भवेत् ? येन स्यात् — येन चरणेन भवेत्, तेन ईदृश एवायम् —
येन केनचित् चरणेन स्यात्, तेन ईदृश एव उक्तलक्षण एव ब्राह्मणो भवति ; येन
केनचिच्चरणेनेति स्तुत्यर्थम् — येयं ब्राह्मण्यावस्था सेयं स्तूयते, न तु
चरणेऽनादरः ।

Translation by Swami Mādhavānanda:

....and becomes a knower of Brahman, or accomplishes his task:* he attains
the conviction that*
*all is Brahman. *Because he has reached the goal, therefore he is a
Brahm~a. a knower of Brahman ; for then his status as a knower of Brahman
is literally true.

Therefore the text says: How does that knower of Brahman behave? Howsoever
he may behave. he is just such - a knower of Brahman as described above.

The expression, 'Howsoever he may behave,' is intended for a tribute to
this state of a knower of
Brahman, and does not mean reckless behaviour.

If the above is not Vedanta, nothing else is.


> If you agree with this, then there is no debate. It then proves that he
> cannot be considered as jnAni. You can call it whatever you want -
> Neovedanta or mysticism or a cult. But you have been arguing that he is a
> jnAni and his teachings are Vedanta. ‎
>> ‎Regards
> Kripa ‎
> yo vedAdau svaraH prokto vedAnte cha pratiShThitaH |
> tasya prakRRiti-lInasya yaH parassa maheshvaraH ||
>   Original Message
> From: Praveen R. Bhat
> Sent: Friday 27 January 2017 5:46 PM
> To: Kripa Shankar; A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta
> Cc: Bhaskar YR
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Dayanand Saraswathi interview - Very interesting
> stand taken by Swami

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