[Advaita-l] Dayanand Saraswathi interview - Very interesting stand taken by Swami
sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com
Fri Jan 13 23:07:05 CST 2017
There is an interesting story, which probably leads to similar. Once a man was taking bhang and another man asked him not to take bhang. Then the first man shouted at the second man saying "Lord Shiva also takes bhang, So what is wrong in taking bhang." Probably to save the second man, Lord Shiva appeared before the first man and asked "Will you take whatever Lord Shankara takes?" and the man agreed.. Then Lord Shiva took him to the iron-smith and asked the iron-smith to prepare two iron balls and make them red-hot. Lord Shiva ate one red-hot ball and asked the first man to take his. Then the first man realized his folly and fell at the feet of the Lord. and requested the Lord to forgive him. The Jivanmukta is Lord Shiva himself.
On Fri, 1/13/17, kuntimaddi sadananda via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Dayanand Saraswathi interview - Very interesting stand taken by Swami
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Date: Friday, January 13, 2017, 6:49 PM
Sundaresan via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
The truth is
that no one person can (or should) certify or deny
think Vidya made the essential statement. No one CAN
certify or deny anoher's Jivanmukta.
There were discussion also before by
LalitaalalitaaH on the same topic.
We can only go by what a mahatma says and
writes. Upadesha saara and Sat Darshanam texts presents the
essence of Vedanta and it it taken as one of the prakarana
granthas in Adviata teaching. Sringeriji stated that
Bhagavan Raman is a mahatma; that is more than one can say
about anybody else.
Disciples always glorify their teacher as
realized; they need to, otherwise they will not have faith
in his/her teachings.
Vamadeva a jnaani - since he apparently did not or could not
study scriptures! Not sure about Jadabharata in his later
In the final
analysis it is ridiculous to try to evaluate someone else
whether he/she is jnaani. Jeevanmukta lakshana is only
to evaluate oneself.
a simple test to see if one is realized or not.
If you touch a red hot iron with bare hand, and
if you do not get burned, then you are realized.
Shankara, of course,
interprets this if a jnaani is one who when makes contact
with the hot world, he will not get burned.
That is the litmus test.
Bhagavan Ramana appears to have lived peacefully throughout
his life without getting burned.
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