[Advaita-l] Why "D. Gayatri" has been allowed to post to the list

Kathirasan K brahmasatyam at gmail.com
Sat Sep 3 23:41:49 CDT 2016

Namaste Jaldharji

I admire your objectivity. I enjoyed all the posts from Gayathri ji as well
as the responses from the rest. And I am learning from all the discussions
because there is a great degree of pandityam in the discussions. Friction
first creates heat and later Light!

*Kathirasan K*

On 4 September 2016 at 10:25, Jaldhar H. Vyas via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> [Was Re: [Advaita-l] Supremacy of Shiva over Vishnu]
> List members who have patiently endured the recent flood of mails deserve
> a long overdue explanation as to why it has been allowed.
> On Fri, 2 Sep 2016, Ravi Kiran via Advaita-l wrote:
> Thought Advaita is all about attaining liberation or mokSa or sadyo mukti
>> (sarva dukha nivrutti and paramAnanda prApti) through jivAtma paramAtma
>> ekatva ( paramArtha or advaita) jnAna in this very life (as far as
>> spiritual aspirants are concerned).
> Yes you are right but consider this:  jivatma paramatva ekatva is only
> possible by the cessation of all samkalpik karma.  And the only person who
> can do cease karma completely is the sannyasi.  Only the sannyasi and of
> all the grades of sannyasis, the paramahamsa is capable of mukti in this
> lifetime.
> Have you taken sannyasa?  IF not, then all discussion we could conduct on
> this list no matter how low or lofty is theoretical only.  I do not single
> you out here for I am in the same boat.
> So is joining advaita-l pointless?  No I think that theoretical
> discussions can still have value in that they are a preparation for the
> practice.  The fact is that much of the philosophical development of
> Advaita Vedanta has been as a result of critique from other darshanas, the
> Bauddha, Purvamimamsaka, Sankhya, Vaishnavas and other theists of various
> kinds, and now Indology.  So it is important for the sadhaka to get a good
> understanding of these other perspectives to get a better understanding of
> his own perspective.
> As long as you are in samsara (and you cannot escape it by slogans but
> only by renunciation) you are bound by every relevant injunction of the
> Vedas and shastras.  If you are a Brahmana grhastha as a many list members
> are, learning dharma, teaching dharma, and defending dharma against its
> opponents is your bounden duty.  This cannot be foisted off onto "scholars"
> or acharyas.  For this purpose as well, one must be aware of the historical
> and philosophical bases of Advaita Vedanta.
> One more reason:  The epitome of Advaita sadhana has been summarized as an
> contemplation (vichara) on the question "Who am I?" Well, no one of us has
> spontaneously generated.  "I" is in part a product of ones ancestry,
> environment, and other historical factors.  This too must be analyzed in
> depth.
> "D. Gayatri" has been at times tedious and sophistic but at times has also
> provided geneuine food for thought.  It is for that reason I have allowed
> these threads to continue though perhaps not much longer.
> On Sun, 4 Sep 2016, V Subrahmanian wrote:
> I am extremely shocked and sorry to find that such a blatant violation of
>> the very purpose of this forum is taking place here initiated by a member
>> who has been removed from another forum of Advaita recently for his
>> misdemeanor and who operates with several aliases.
> Even before you alerted me to this I had my suspicions that person is not
> what they seem.  The ironic thing is that he is a Vaishnava, he has
> probably done more to sully the reputation of that which he claims to
> champion than any Advaitin ever could.
> --
> Jaldhar H. Vyas <jaldhar at braincells.com>
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