[Advaita-l] The Tinged Brahman of Deep Sleep, etc.

sreenivasa murthy narayana145 at yahoo.co.in
Thu Jun 30 07:38:51 CDT 2016

Pranams to all the participants in this thread.
      I have a couple of doubts : 
      how will tinged Brahma will become untinged?      Sruti says  ayam AtmA brahma || So Atma is also tinged in all the states. 
      How to make Atma untinged ?      Is he available for untinging operation?      Has any one done it?  Please instruct me where one has done it so that  I can realize Atma which is not tinged.

With respectful namaskarams,Sreenivasa Murthy

      From: Venkatraghavan S via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
 To: V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com> 
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 Sent: Thursday, 30 June 2016 5:42 PM
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Namaste Sri Subbuji,

Great, I remember the discussion in relation to आगन्तुकत्वं of अविद्या.

>From Anandagiri AchArya's clarification, it appears that on similar lines,
the अभाव of अविद्या in सुषुप्ति here refers to its अनभिव्यक्तं. Presumably
here by अविद्या, अध्यास is being referred to.

On 30 Jun 2016 11:45 a.m., "V Subrahmanian" <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>

> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 1:02 AM, Venkatraghavan S <agnimile at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Namaste Sri Subbu ji,
>> In a related matter, I had some issues reconciling /interpreting the
>> bhAshya of Br. Up. 4.3.21.
>> The specific vAkya I am having a problem reconciling with is :
>> यत आत्मकामम् — आत्मैव कामाः यस्मिन् रूपे, अन्यत्र प्रविभक्ता इव अन्यत्वेन
>> काम्यमानाः यथा जाग्रत्स्वप्नयोः, तस्य आत्मैव
>> अन्यत्वप्रत्युपस्थापकहेतोरविद्याया अभावात्
> Anandagiri Acharya clarifies for the above sentence:
> यद्यपि सुषुप्तेऽविद्या विद्यते तथाऽपि न सा अभिव्यक्ता अस्ती
> इत्यनर्थपरिहारोपपत्तिरित्यर्थः ।
> He says: Even though avidya subsists in deep sleep, yet it (avidya) is not
> manifest and hence there is no anartha, sāmsāric trammels, in deep sleep.
> In the very next paragraph in the bhashyam there is the word आगन्तुक. For
> this too Anandagiri commentary is there: Even though Avidya is not
> something that will come later, yet, when it manifests (in jāgrat) it will
> bring forth all the problems.
> We had discussed this above portion in this forum before.
> regards
> vs
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