[Advaita-l] Attributes and upadhis

Ravi Kiran ravikiranm108 at gmail.com
Fri Jul 10 23:18:11 CDT 2015

On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 9:22 AM, kuntimaddi sadananda <
kuntimaddisada at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Ravi Kiran:
>  Regarding the example
>  itself, is it not that, had  Vishnumitra had
>  perceived devadatta earlier (A - during
>  childhood days when they used to
>  play :) and
>  after many years ( grown up), seeing devadatta again (B)
>  and
>  not knowing A = B, when yaGYadatta says
>  -  this is that devadatta ,
>  all the
>  discarding
>  happens as detailed above ?
>  My question specifically is -
>  if  Vishnumitra is seeing devadatta for the
>  very first time in his life and
>  yaGYadatta says -  this is that devadatta,
>  does the above discarding
>  happens, lakShaNA
>  vRRitti of the type bhAga-tyAga, since there is no
>  context of 'that' as far as Vishnumitra
>  is concerned ?
>  --------------------------------
>  Ravi Kiranji - PraNAms.
> The point Pranipataji was making is the equation involves  one Devadatta
> from memory and one from direct perception. Memory need not be based on
> previous perception - it can be based on shabda - or hear say about
> Devadatta by his friend Yagnadatta.
Thanks for the clarification, Sadanandaji ...though when it is based on
shabda ( referring to external objects, as in this example), the impression
itself (memory) may not be very clear (due to imaginations) as compared to
the previous direct perception, but the unitary knowledge that occurs
through bhaaga tyaaga in both cases, is same.


> The contradictory attributes of this and that devadatta are there and
> bhaaga tyaaga is involved in unitary knowledge
> .
> Hari Om!
> Sadananda

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