[Advaita-l] Which one is first in the creation sequence
vmurthy36 at gmail.com
Fri Feb 28 06:23:20 CST 2014
I have given one reference from Swami Krishnananda website. Time is also
created by God only. Time is a product of Maya. Time is created with other
things in the world. But if you accept creation is not new but from seed
there is a easy explanation.
When a room is dark and there are many objects in the room you cannot see
the objects but they are there. You cannot say nothing is existing. When
you switch on the light you can immediately see the objects. There objects
are seen simultaneously and not one by one.
Same thing is said in Akramadruk sloka of Naishkarmya Siddhi.
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 4:53 PM, H S Chandramouli
<hschandramouli at gmail.com>wrote:
> << In the book 'srIdakShiNamUrtistotram' Vol.1, p.132 there is a sub-title
> ''kramasRShTi, yugapatsRShTi.' There, for the latter, there is a reference
> from the kauShItakI upaniShad 3.3 is given:
> yathA agneH jvalataH sarvaa disho visphulingA vipratiShTeran evameva
> etasmAt AtmanaH sarve prANA yathAyatanam vipratiShThante prANebhyo devA
> devebhyo lokAH.
> [Even as sparks proceed in all directions from blazing fire, even so from
> this Self the vital breaths proceed to their respective stations, from the
> vital powers the Gods (the sense powers) and from the Gods, the worlds.]
> In the same vein we can see the muNDaka shruti 2.2.1 and a Br.up. mantra
> Thanks for the clarification. I do not see how this means all craeation
> took place simultaneously. I will however try and get at the book referred
> to for proper understanding. But I went thru the Mundaka sloka 2.2.1 along
> with the bhashya , but did not get the impression that the verse/bhashya
> anywhere states that the entire creation takes place simultaneously.
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 2:03 AM, ramesh badisa <badisa66 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Namaskaram.
> > At the beginning of email, I would like to seek your forgiveness for
> > raising a silly question. I could not figure out the answer for myself.
> > I am requesting all members to help me.
> > My confusion was related to two Bhagawad Gita slokas -
> > 4/13 (chatur varnyam ...) &
> > 10/6 (Maharsayah Sapta ..).
> > The first sloka talks about four varnas. So, it is obvious that it is
> > concerned to the creation;
> > The second sloka talks about creation of seven great sages by the Lord.
> > This is also concerned to the creation.
> > My confusion was that which one stands first in the creation.
> > If you say, "it doesn't matter", then, sorry the matter ends there.
> > However, if you would like to help me, please read further.
> > Is it 4/13 first or 10/6 first
> > When there is no creation, then, there are no varnas.
> > Similarly, when seven great sages were born, there are no four varnas but
> > only one varna - the first varna.
> > For me, it appears that the classification of varnas by Lord came much
> > later after the creation. Please correct me if I am wrong.
> > Namaskaram,
> > ramesh
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