[Advaita-l] Narayanaya in Advaita

V Subrahmanian v.subrahmanian at gmail.com
Thu Feb 6 04:03:59 CST 2014


On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Sujal Upadhyay <sujal.u at gmail.com> wrote:

> Namaste,
>
> I have learned so much from this discussion. Thank you to all members who
> has contributed to this thread.
>
> Personally, on a lighter note, I think that those who call us mAyAvAdi-s
>


Actually it was Sri VAchaspasti mishra, the author of the bhAmatI, who used
this word to denote Vedantins.  This is because, all other schools opposed
to vedAnta, such as sAnkhya, nyAya-vaisheshika, yoga, etc. are jagat
satyatva, jIvanAnAtva vAdins.  Vedanta alone differed from them in
proclaiming prapancha mithyAtva and jIvatva mithyAtva and ultimate aikya.
This Vedanta does on the basis of bringing mAyA as per the shruti mAyAm tu
prakRtim vidyAt..etc.  So, mAyAvAdins are vedantins.  Prior to Shankara and
His Acharyas there were no non-adviatic vedantic schools.  So, to
distinguish Vedanta from all non-vedantic schools the term mAyAviAdin was
used.  It later became a term used by non-advaitic vedantins like VA and
Dvaitins to refer derogatorily to Advaita/advaitins.


regards
subrahmanian.v





> are actually themselves mAyAvAdi-s, as they glorify mAyA like ocean by
> being themselves a wave, but do not look at water, they wish to live in
> Vaikuntha, which made of mAyA and they say that Jiva (with body or without
> body), jagat and Ishvara are all real. All have elements of mAyA in them,
> while we rise above mAyA. So they live within mAyA and enjoy lilA (I do not
> like diluted word past-times). All is within the realm of mAyA :D. For them
> Vaikuntha / Goloka, which is made up of mAyA is the final destination,
> while our AcArya teaches us to rise above mAyA and realize ourselves as
> 'pure consciousness'.
>
> Hari OM
>
> Sujal
>
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Bhaskar YR <bhaskar.yr at in.abb.com> wrote:
>
> > In the vaishnava tradition, one can go to NArAyana only via  Lakshmi
> hence
> > the term Sri Vaishanva as Sri has to come first before Vishnu.
> >
> > praNAms
> > Hare Krishna
> >
> > In advaita also the above has been said in another way.  Shankara
> > somewhere says without this nAmarUpAtmaka jagat one would have not known
> > that brahman is prajnAna ghanaM.   (sorry could not recall the exact
> > reference  from bhAshya).
> >
> > Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
> > bhaskar
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