[Advaita-l] More records - last part

Sunil Bhattacharjya sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com
Tue Mar 22 11:06:15 CDT 2011

Dear Dr. Yaduji,

What you say is correct that one has to know the meaning or else the recitation is meaningless. But there is also more to it as otherwise it could have been just a statement to convey the same meaning. One has to remember the meaning of the statement and that is always better retained in memory if the composition is such that it can be sung to a tune. The teacher can start  with letting the person enjoy of the mantra to the tune and commit  the mantra to memory and then the teacher can explain the meaning of the mantra if the mantra is appealing to the person. Teacher may also chose the specific  mantra to suit the person by knowing the person beforehand.


Sunil K. Bhattacharjya.

--- On Tue, 3/22/11, Dr. Yadu Moharir <ymoharir at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Dr. Yadu Moharir <ymoharir at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] More records - last part
To: "Siva Senani Nori" <sivasenani at yahoo.com>, "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
Date: Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 8:16 AM


Our classical literature emphasizes that it is important to understand the meaning of mantra and mere repeating mantra is totally useless. 

tajjapastadrthabhaavanam || samaadhipaada 28 ||

Meaning - recite the meaning of mantra.

mantraarthaM mantracaitanyaM yo na jaanaati saadhakaH |
shatalaxaprajapto.api tasya mantro na siddhyati ||

Meaning - A mantra does not attain its potency even when one recites mantra for millions of time without knowing the meaning and the significance of that mantra.

Most of Swami's make mantra as mystique only for for their selfish motives for creating "shaddha" (andha-shraddha) and that is how folks like Nityananda and Prakashanada manifest in the US market place.

IMO - The viveka, the faculty of discrimination is the greatest virtue that needs to be followed by any and all individual aspirant.  Finally, knowledge has to dawn on the individual saadhaka and it is his own responsibility to make sure that what he thinks he has understood is correct. 

There cannot be any higher guru that you yourself. So become your own guru.


Dr. Yadu

--- On Tue, 3/22/11, Siva Senani Nori <sivasenani at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Siva Senani Nori <sivasenani at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] More records - last part
To: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
Date: Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 4:19 AM

Thank you for taking the trouble. I have issues with many depictions, but I will 
merely state the over-arcing theme: whatever be the reasons, over a thousand 
years, over vast tracts of land, we the sanaatanadharmis have failed to arrest 
the attack on our way of life using the mantraSAstra in whichever capacity. If 
it cannot be invoked to make a difference over such a large extent of time and 
space, whatever potency it has - or whatever is required to invoke that potency 
(that we lacked in the last fifty generations) - does not help. 

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