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vijaya1.kambhampati at tiscali.co.uk vijaya1.kambhampati at tiscali.co.uk
Sun Mar 22 02:56:43 CDT 2009

Pranaams to all.

Thank you very much to Sadanandaji for the clear explanation of maya 
to me. I have begun to understand more about the transient nature of 
ones relations in the world. It is clear that relations fade when one 
makes new contacts and lose touch over time with others. 

I would also like to thak Anbu Sivanji  for the reply that the reply 
would be maya too.

Satya Sai Baba addresses his devotees as prema swaroopas as we are 
born into the world of maya from love , live because of love and then 
die. However, Love is an emotional state of the mind and the mind is 
part of maya. How can one transcend the world of emotions to reach the 
peace of atman. And also Should one try to live unemotionally in order 
to live in atman, I  have been told vairagya or detachment is essental 
to search for atma. Is that the same as being unemotional?? 

Is living in atman a pursuit for the intellect.. Is Meditation a 
pursuit for the intellect.? Through which tool can I search for atman 
which I have been told is Satchitananda. 

These are questions that come back to me even though I know that the 
gross world of objects body mind and intellect are all part of maya. 

Thank you all once again for the very kind replies.

Pranaams again.


>----Original Message----
>From: kuntimaddisada at yahoo.com
>Date: 22/03/2009 0:13 
>To: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta"<advaita-l at lists.advaita-
>Cc: <vijaya1.kambhampati at tiscali.co.uk>
>Subj: Re: [Advaita-l] (no subject)
>Vijaya and Ambushivan - praNAms
>I am not sure if the original post of vijayaji was from the list or 
not, to respond to her query.
>Maaya comes into picture in explaining how one appears to many as 
Iswara shakti. Hence appearance of all plurality is due to maaya only. 
Maaya also involves delusory power that is taking the apparent 
plurality as real. 
>Relations are possible only when there are  two. Mother-father 
relations come with birth when the subtle body enters into the womb 
after garbhaadaanam. The emotional relationship develops with the 
mother and then with the father as the child grows. Close physical 
contact with the mother is recommended as important for the sound 
emotional growth of the child. If the child is brought up by a 
different couple, it may develop the emotional relations ship with the 
adopted parents with no contact with birth parents.  
>All these relationship are essentially rooted because of the strong 
attachment to the gross physical body or bodies.
>When one moves into different fields as some of us did moving from 
one country to the other, lingering emotional attachments with the 
previous fields exists to some extent and slowly it will die down as 
new relationships are established in the new land. This may take longer 
for some and for other quickly depending on how emotional they are. 
Many contact relationships slowly diedown unless one keeps reinforcing 
it by frequent travel back to the old field.
>We can extend the same with a caveat that after death only subtle 
body remains since gross body is left behind in the old environment. 
The lingering emotions at the subtle body level can remain until it 
gets deeply engraved in the new field with its own samsaara. One can 
see this temporarily in the dream world where one has detached from the 
gross body of the waking world and create dream gross body to interact 
with the dream subjects. This is just an analogy.
>There are discussion about the pitRilokas and other lokas and 
pouranik stories of how Rama could see Dasharatha in the havens, etc. 
>How much importance one gives for all these relations compared to the 
fundamental truth that is unrelated to any since it is one without a 
second to have any relationships - depends on one's emotional growth. 
>All relations of course are within maaya only. But if we know it is 
really maaya then that is the beginning of evolution.
>Just my 2C.
>Hari Om!
>--- On Sat, 3/21/09, Anbu sivam2 <anbesivam2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>How would you accept if the answer given is also Maya?
>On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:34 PM, vijaya1.kambhampati at tiscali.co.uk <
>vijaya1.kambhampati at tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>> Could you please tell me whether the affection we feel for our 
>> father friends siblings and others is only maya and a creation of 
>> vasanas or whether it has a reality that transcends maya. Do we 
>> meet these individuals again after death and become one with them.
>> Also, is the atman apart and separate from the world of gross 
>> or does it include these objects and further transcend them. Is 
>> anything that the science of physics, chemistry ,maths etc can 
teach us
>> about brahman. I personally find meditation difficult. How can I 
>> in world of body mind and intellect and still attain peace.
>> Could this group shed light on these matters which must be simple 
>> those on this list.
>> Vijaya.

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