[Advaita-l] Grace of God
prem d p
prem_d_p at yahoo.co.in
Fri Jun 29 00:37:22 CDT 2007
dear sri siva senani, sri sadananda, sri dilip, sri srinivas,
thank you for responding.
sri sadananda wrote:
About free will - I have free will until I am free from will - that is I am free from
the notion of doership. Then the local perturbations as well as the global
responses all happening naturally - by prakRiti ' prakRityeva ca karmaani kriya
and who ever sees or understands this correctly alone understand that 'I am
neither doer nor enjoyer' - free from any doing - free from 'will to do' too. That is
of course is liberation.
thank you for reminding us that 'will' is 'will to do'.
- mumukshutva should be seen as a progressive dissociation or distancing from
- thus it is progressive 'letting go' of doership
- thus it is progressive realization that Self has neither the need nor whim for
- the moment it is fully realized that there is no association of Self, that very
moment the word 'will' ceases to be, neither is their individual will nor God's
- that is because when the individual will is completely sacrificed (yajna) at the
altar of God's Will, 'tat tvam asi' is realized, and there is no one else.
shankara points out, there is no karma which can work towards Realization.
the problem in the understanding of the idea of non-action or non-doership as
the 'means' to liberation is that we think in terms of a 'will to non-action'.
this is because we think 'to act' is natural and 'to not act' requires will.
to act, indeed, is natural to phenomenal nature, but not to 'Self'.
thus 'to not act' is not to force prakriti into non-action (impossible of course) but
to be non-attached to action.
.....the Mumukshatwa is the link between the phenomenon and the noumenon.
The impulse to be free is from the land of noumenon , manifesting in the
domain of phenomenality. The explanation , the form , is later given by the
'noumenon' or 'thing in itself' as first proposed by Kant is a concept which
maintains the manifold mutiplicity of reality. as you of course know, vedantic
position is different, we say that multiplicity is only the Name & Form and the
so called 'noumenon' is un-differentiated Existence. We say, 'isavasyam idam
sarvam' and lest we forget 'tat tvam asi' too (as sri sadananda and sri srinivas
(dilip, as for 'Name & Form' itself there has been lot of enlightening/stimulating
discussion & papers in the list, if you look up the archives of last few months,
as 'bhava-rupa', 'abhava-rupa' etc.)
dear list members, your comments requested.
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