[Advaita-l] svAmI satchidAnandEndra sarasvatI (SSS)
sjayana at yahoo.com
Thu Feb 8 20:50:22 CST 2007
--- bhaskar.yr at in.abb.com wrote:
> to time constraints I am not able to participate in this discussion
> next one week...But let me bluntly say that *the gradation in self
> knowledge* is simply shAstra vAkya viruddha ( goes against
> verdict such as bramavit bramaiva bhavati, nEha nAnAsti
> knowing brahman is nothing but *realizing* that brahman is our own
> svarUpa...we cannot say I have partly understood brahman & still I
> *gnAni mAtra* & I need to do *something* ater jnAna to become
> *brahman* /
Find any quote of mine, in any mailing list, where I spoke of
"partial Brahman-realization" as being advaita siddhi, and I promise
to become a mute follower of SSS.
As I've never spoken of this in any context, let alone the
discussions on the JMV, there are two possibilities here:
1) You genuinely believe that the JMV considers "partial
Brahman-realization", in which case I can only direct you to re-read
my postings. I cannot help you understand the JMV any other way.
2) Since the thesis of the JMV is iron-clad, the technique adopted
here is that of creating and defeating a strawman.
> jnAni in absolute sense...brahma jnAna is not an objective
> knowledge like
> that...He who has realized that he is the secondless brahman
> (yEkamEvAdvitIya brahman) beyond all action, means of action and
> there of, is the ONLY real jnAnin. Such an enlightened one has
> more to accomplish to *become* something else from what he *ever*
> was/is/will be...calibrating jnAni-s like jnAni mAtra & jIvan mukta
> etc. and entrusting him certain disciplining acts (vidhi-s) etc.
> etc. are
> due to lack of grasping the truth behind the jnAni-hood as
> enshrined in
> shruti-s...It is a matter of fact that jnAni would never look upon
> possession of a body as a real fact (see bruhadAraNyaka which says
> jnAni is *asharIri* even it seems he is in sharIra)...under these
> circumstances, where is the question of *leaving desires* AFTER
> jnAna?? jnAni reaping the the result of prArabda karma is only a
> from the trasactional view point...If he is real jnAni then there
> is no
> question of upAdhi baNdhana, karma bandhana etc. ....
> If time permits I shall take your quotes from
> explicitly deals with this shAstra vAkya in sUtra bhAshya as
You're referring to the BSB 3.4.47.
I'll study that passage carefully, and prepare myself so as to be
able to prove you wrong when you post on it :-)
> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
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