[Advaita-l] Trees have life- bhAshya
raman.vishwanathan at gmail.com
Sun Dec 9 06:09:19 CST 2007
I would like to add one point here (based on my understanding of my Guru
Swami ParamArthanandA's teachings).
He often says 5 points in his classes, that we need to remember whenever we
talk about Consciousness aka Existence (Note the capitalized forms of 'C'
and 'E'), which I would like quote here for the benefit of the list members.
(1) Consciousness or Existence is not a part/product/property of the body /
(2) Consciousness or Existence is an independent entity that pervades and
enlivens the body / mind complex.
(3) Consciousness or Existence is not limited by the boundaries of the body
/ mind complex.
(4) Consciousness or Existence survives even after the disintegration of the
body / mind complex.
(5) The surviving Consciousness or Existence is not experienced not because
it is absent but because the medium of transaction (body / mind complex) is
Thus whenever we talk about gradations in Consciousness what we are really
talking about is the Reflected Consciousness (ChidAbhAsa) and not the
Original Consciousness (which is Sat-Chit-Ananda).
> Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 12:47:39 +0530
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> On Dec 7, 2007 8:57 PM, S.N. Sastri <sn.sastri at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Dr. J.C. Bose (1858 ?1937) is said to have discovered that trees and
> > plants
> > have life and react to stimuli. I do not know whether this was known to
> > science earlier. Scientist members of this group must be able to say.
> > But it is interesting that this has been stated by Sri Sankara himself
> > his bhAshya on chandogya upanishad, VI. 11. 2:--
> > "That a tree is possessed of a soul is indicated by such signs as
> > exudation
> > and drying up of sap. From the illustration in the Sruti that the
> > non-moving
> > living things are possessed of consciousness, the view of the Buddhists
> > and
> > the vaiSeshikas, who hold that the non-moving things have no
> > consciousness,
> > is seen to be without substance".
> The Upanishad talks about the tree having
> 'consciousness', while science discovered that trees have 'life'. Is
> 'consciousness' in the bhAshya equivalent to what science calls 'life' ?
> Of course, who knows, trees may also possess consciousness, maybe in a
> cruder form as compared to us humans. Only some light has been thrown on
> softer problems about consciousness, but answer to the hard one still
> Kindly correct me wherever wrong. Would be glad to hear comments on the
> Best regards,
> Happiness is the absence of the striving for happiness.
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