[Advaita-l] An adhyAsa challenge

Jay Nelamangala jay at r-c-i.com
Sun Jun 8 16:36:26 CDT 2003


>I just went through your postings on adhyAsa again, and I
>found 2 (or a little more) quotes from vivaraNa pramEya
>sangraha and none from the Sruti, smriti etc. I am sure
>that there must be several Sruti/smriti quotes from the
>advaita side to support this position in their works,
>including the Brahmasutra-bhashya, Naishkarmya siddhi, VPS
>etc. Maybe you can quote these for us when discussing the
>different types of adhyasa.

Precisely.   This adhyAsa series is being written  so that
it provides an opportunity for  knowledgeable people like you
and others in this group who can educate all of us with works such as 
Naishkarmya siddhi etc.

If Sri BAdarAyaNa himself had supported the adhyAsa theory,  
then Sri Madhwa would have followed suite, and  I could have
helped you with your request.   But that is not the case.  In fact,
I would like to know myself  where adhyAsa-theory is found in
prasthAna-traya !!.   You need to find it out more than I do.

> 
> I think many people on the list may be feeling
> uncomfortable with the slightly aggressive nature of your
> postings

I am the minority in this group :-)
I don't mean to hurt anyone,  I do respect the knowledge of
Sri VidyAshankar ,  Sri SadAnanda and others of the list.

I am as human as anyone else in this group, nothing more
nothing less.   I  do make my set of ommisions and sometimes
unintentionally hurt the other person while trying to make a point,
especially when I have to answer a large number of questions in
a day.  

> 
> > Thus,  jeeva is the deha-abhimAniNI or the enabler
> > of body by being in it.  Deha is jada, it can not act on its own.
> > That is the connection between the two.
> 
> That still doesn't explain why two totally contradictary
> things, of the nature of consciousness and unconsciousness
> (likened to light and darkness) should be super-imposed
> together in normal experience.
> 
> Aniruddhan
> 
But who is saying they are superposed in the first place?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sankaran Aniruddhan" <ani at ee.washington.edu>
To: <ADVAITA-L at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] An adhyAsa challenge


> namaste Sri Jay,
> 
> > Why call it a challenge?   It is understanding of adhyAsa.
> 
> I think many people on the list may be feeling
> uncomfortable with the slightly aggressive nature of your
> postings. For example, I quote from the end of one of your
> postings: "So,  looks like adhyArOpa-apavAda is needed
> only for those who are  unable to find consistency in what
> they read in Agama." (This is just my opinion about the
> reason, of course)
> 
> > > Premise: logic and experience only, no quotes from
> > > shruti or smR^iti.
> > >
> > 
> > If you are not interested in vEdaanta,  I am not interested
> > in any discussion with you.  But,  if you think adhyAsa is
> > according to what is in shruti-smriti-sootras,  then only
> > I am interested.   Therefore,  this premise is not acceptable.
> 
> I just went through your postings on adhyAsa again, and I
> found 2 (or a little more) quotes from vivaraNa pramEya
> sangraha and none from the Sruti, smriti etc. I am sure
> that there must be several Sruti/smriti quotes from the
> advaita side to support this position in their works,
> including the Brahmasutra-bhashya, Naishkarmya siddhi, VPS
> etc. Maybe you can quote these for us when discussing the
> different types of adhyasa.
> 
> > Thus,  jeeva is the deha-abhimAniNI or the enabler
> > of body by being in it.  Deha is jada, it can not act on its own.
> > That is the connection between the two.
> 
> That still doesn't explain why two totally contradictary
> things, of the nature of consciousness and unconsciousness
> (likened to light and darkness) should be super-imposed
> together in normal experience.
> 
> Aniruddhan
> 
> Sruti smRti purANAnAm Alayam karuNAlayam
> namAmi bhagavatpAda Sam.karam lokaSam.karam
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