swamyswarna at YAHOO.COM
Mon May 6 08:36:26 CDT 2002
If Jiva is the creator, can we think of it as a case
of the spider getting enmeshed or trapped by its own
In quite a few vedantic texts, Viveka Chudamani, for
one, it is said, mind is the cause of all bondage and
mind is the cause for moksha! In Sloka 114, it is said
that the Rajas Guna is the root cause of the Jiva
getting trapped in doing Karma. And interestingly, it
is the same Rajas Guna, which is responsible for
Creation (Brahma, the Creator is said to be propelled
by this Guna).
So a mind full of desires is the cause of the bondage
and a mind free from desires is the means for
A Jiva is probably a projection of the Self
(Paramatma) through a specific window of a
multi-dimensional space into or onto this
three-dimensional world. So when the Jiva tries to
trace back its origin through that window backwards,
it encounters the window (mind). And if the Jiva can
go beyond, it does reach the true Self, i.e. itself.
Am I making sense?
I would like learned members to throw more light on
--- "Jaldhar H. Vyas" <jaldhar at BRAINCELLS.COM> wrote:
> On Sun, 5 May 2002, Shrinivas Gadkari wrote:
> > B: The concept of mukti is from the view point of
> the Jiva.
> But this jiva you say is the creator. Presumably
> then it has created
> ignorance and bondage too. So why does it need
> mukti? Either it can get
> it any time it chooses (and that choice is mearly
> one of nomenclature) or
> it can never get it.
> jiva as creator has as many problems as Brahman as
> > Sadhana is targetted to relieve the Jiva from
> suffering. The
> > whole purpose of creation was fun. Lack of correct
> > makes Jiva suffer, hence sadhana. Everything that
> I am saying
> > are standard statements nothing new. Only
> stressing the fun
> > part of the game.
> "Fun" as we would understand it requires intent.
> That's the sticking
> Jaldhar H. Vyas <jaldhar at braincells.com>
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