[Advaita-l] Difficulty with Akhandakara Vrtti

Aurobind Padiyath aurobind.padiyath at gmail.com
Sun Jun 21 11:01:27 CDT 2015

Sri Chandramouliji,
Hari Om!!!
Nirvikapla stage is not culminating one and hence cannot be Brahma Jnana
avastha. Just because you have no vikalpa does not mean you have knowledge.
You have no vikalpa even during deep sleep. The difference between the two
is one is involuntary and the other is a result of forced control of mind.
Having explained that, let me try to come to the akandakara vritti.
The pramana for that state is what is told as " Atma vyatirekena nasti
kinchit". Even thought or thoughtlessness are not applicable to that state
where the mind cannot reach nor words can explain. But it is not
nothingness. It or that state is simply an "Is" or what we call in Sanskrit
as asti. To what or whom can that state explain when there is none other
than just itself in a state of being?
I do not know if I can ever explain it in words. It is where all thoughts
become knowledge just as where all ingredients of a yagna becomes only fire
in the yagnakund.
Hari Om!!!

Aurobind Padiyath
On 21 Jun 2015 21:08, "H S Chandramouli" <hschandramouli at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Sri Aurobind Padiyath Ji,
> Can you kindly clarify if this state you are mentioning is a ' thoughtless
> state " or a " thought with unitary knowledge " . The question is genuine
> as many interpret nirvikalpa samadhi ( thoughtless state ) also as Brahma
> Jnana.
> Regards
> Chandramouli
> On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Aurobind Padiyath via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>> Hari Om,
>> "akhandakara vritti"
>> Akhanda meaning unbroken, Akara meaning (here) Swaroopa,  Vritti (here)
>> meaning continues,  (not thoughts).
>> So, that continuous Swaroopa avastha which displaced the earlier wave like
>> thoughts of vishaya which were arising and subsiding including that of
>> deep
>> sleep like state where visheshvijnana absence is felt, because even deep
>> sleep
>> is not continuous, is the true state of akhandakara vritti. It is called a
>> vritti as a misnomer due to the absence of a better word.
>> Hari om!!!
>> Aurobind Padiyath
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