[Advaita-l] [advaitin] Shankara compares and contrasts Prātibhāsika, Vyāhārika and Pāramārthika

[Bhaskar YR]

no one since Śrī Śaṅkara in 812 CE is a jñāni
That is the inevitable but ridiculous assertion being made by the abhāva-vādins.

praNAms
Hare Krishna

According to some logicians, not even shankara an enlightened one, you are a fanatic if you say so 😊, he is. along with Ishwara just a phantom figure (a product of the thick / impenetrable avidyA) in your conditioned mind!!, so you should throw your queries to those who are advocating nereeshwara vAda in Advaita.  BTW, Sri SSS talking about the vyAkhyAna prakriya / methodology involved in interpretation of shankara's AV here and his comment not directed towards any individuals.

Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
bhaskar

BHASKAR YR
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Namaste Venkatraghavan ji
If PSA position leads to anirmokṣa  as asserted by Michael ji, no one since Śrī Śaṅkara in 812 CE is a jñāni until SSSS, Hacker, Alston and chatGPT came in the 20th and 21st century.

That is the inevitable but ridiculous assertion being made by the abhāva-vādins.

Om
Raghav



On Sat, 31 Jan 2026 at 9:15 PM, Venkatraghavan S via Advaita-l < advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Namaste Michael,
>
> Thanks, but I am not interested in continuing a discussion where a
> person makes erroneous assumptions about my position and then
> concludes that what follows from such a position is wrong.
>
> Illogical and anirmoksha you say? So be it.
>
> Regards,
> Venkatraghavan
>
>
> On Sat, 31 Jan 2026, 23:00 Michael Chandra Cohen, <
> michaelchandra108 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Venkataraghavan sir,
> > SSS's only interest is presenting PTB as intended. Further,
> > purvapaksa based on tarka and sabda is the traditional manana to
> > arrive at that intention. There is no one to converted here - we all
> > have the same interest. However, endowing vyvarhara with a relative
> > reality is contrary to PTB, illogical and an anirmoksa position, as
> > SSS points out.🙏
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 31, 2026 at 9:18 AM Sudhanshu Shekhar <
> > sudhanshu.iitk at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Namaste Michael ji.
> >>
> >> It is not true that I have not studied PSA - I have not studied
> >> like you
> >>> have no doubt but that is hardly the point.
> >>>
> >>
> >> The tell me, how do you agree with Dr Hegde that PSA postulate the
> >> ontological reality for world without any standpoint. I have given
> citation
> >> of PanchadashI and Tejobindu commentary which clearly postulate
> >> that avidyA/world are mithyA from avidyA-drishTi, and tuchchhA from
> >> Brahma-drishTi. There are hundreds other supporting citations. I
> >> don't
> want
> >> to flood the mail. It is actually common sense. Snake is illusory
> >> from
> the
> >> frame of reference of non-rope. Snake is tuchchha from
> >> rope-frame-of-reference.
> >>
> >> How can you not know this basic postulate of PSA and venture to
> >> refute them by relying on half-baked articles of Dr Hegde and
> >> incorrect understanding of SSSS ji.
> >>
> >> Just appreciate what you are doing. In the name of some
> >> shuddha-ShAnkara-prakriyA, you are contradicting common sense as
> >> well as omniscient SAyaNAchArya, the commentator of VedAs. For what
> >> purpose? For what use?
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards.
> >> Sudhanshu Shekhar.
> >>
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