[Advaita-l] [advaitin] Can We Break Free from Karma? Understand Cause, Effect & Choice | Ep 07 of Exploring Sanatana Dharma
Kuntimaddi Sadananda
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Wed May 21 08:41:55 EDT 2025
PraNAms
As I understand, for a realized master's BMI (body, mind,and intellect) the sanchita karma gets destroyed.
There will still be prarabda karma that has two components -one due to individual and the other due to the collective. Ramana Maharshi hadhand operation and Ramakrishna Paramahamsa had throat problem. The collectivepraarabda involves the seekers' that log for a realized master for theirevolution.
This will continue until the body drops - the BMI each willmerge with the totals -virat, hiranya garba and Iswara, respectively.
The statements of Goudapaada and Shakara exists - all atvyaavaharika level only - So is Bhagavat Geeta.
avignyaate pare tatve shaastraadiistu nishpalaa|
vijnaatepi pare tatve shaastraadiistu nishpalaa|| - Vivekachudamani.
Only at the paarmaarthika level - nothing - no thing -exists.
All these discussions, including Geeta, Upanishads, karikas,etc. along with bound jeevas and karmas -valid at the vyaavaharika level - onlyat the paaramaarthika level there are BMIs also.
As long as we are clear about what referencekarika statements and including scriptural statements are valid, there shouldnot be any confusion.
Confusion comes only when we mix the two referencestates.
Just my 2c
Hari Om!
Sada
On Wednesday, May 21, 2025 at 03:21:10 AM EDT, Akilesh Ayyar <akilesh at siftingtothetruth.com> wrote:
Akilesh Ayyar
On May 21, 2025 at 12:01:31 AM, 'Bhaskar YR' via advaitin <advaitin at googlegroups.com> wrote:
praNAms
Hare Krishna
The shAstra has devised varnasrama, and all that is required for sadhana, with a view to help those who are not yet risen to the level of appreciating ajAti - that is no-creation.
- Yes, `but nothing is going to disappear and nothing is going to lose its practicality post jnAna. chAtur varNyam maya srushtaM guNa karma vibhAgashaH says lord, he does this as per pUrva kalpa dues and obligations. There is no entry for jeeva srushti here in this Ishwara srushti. The apavAda drushti does not negate the existence of these varNa-s but jnAni would have the sama drushti in these vagaries of world. What is adhyArOpita will be negated and jnAni see the ekatvaM behind anekatvaM. vidyA Vinaya saMpanne, braHmaNe gavi hastini..verse too shows that there is continuation of variety but with ekatva jnAna. And this Ishwara srushti is required and must to realize that brahman is ultimately prajnAna ghana and nirvishesha.
Nothing disappears, true. How can something disappear which cannot be said to have appeared?
Practicality? For whom? Has there ever been such a thing?
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When they come to that level, it is not that they will discard all that, but will appreciate that this is what has brought them to that higher level.
Ø And in that realization he realizes that he is anna, annaada and shloka karta.
Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
bhaskar
Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
bhaskar
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