[Advaita-l] Narada Purana - Returning to earth even after attaining the Vaishnava-Parama pada

[Uddeshya Sharma]

Shiva Shiva ,

Namaskara sir ,

This reminds me of reading somewhere that the bhakta having gone to
satyaloka ( the realm of his istha )receives Brahma gyana from the devta
and then proceeds to the final liberation at the time of pralaya . Is this
from the bhasya of Bhagvatpada?

On Mon, 11 Aug 2025, 18:59 Raghav Kumar Dwivedula via Advaita-l, <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 at 4:31 PM, V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> > Earlier we had seen that in the Mahabharata is a dialogue where Krishna
> > discourses on the various observances/vows that lead one to His loka or
> > Shiva loka and those who go there return to this loka after enjoying
> bhoga
> > there.  Having returned they become Jnanis.
> >
> > Here are two instances from the *sāttvik* Naradiya Mahapurana where
> > individuals are shown returning to earth even after attaining the
> > Vaishnava-Parama pada (Tad VishnoH paramam Padam - a Rg vedic passage)
> and
> > enjoying bhogas in that realm for many kalpas.
> >
> >
> > नारदपुराणम्- पूर्वार्धः/अध्यायः २०
> >
> > https://sa.wikisource.org/s/4v8   - Devanagari version
> >
> > https://cloudup.com/chlxvobAueh    Kannada version with translation
> p.60
> >
> > https://archive.org/details/dli.bengal.10689.12945/page/n323/mode/2up
> >  English translation of verse 77
> >
> > इत्युक्ता विष्णुदूतास्ते च्छित्वा पाशांस्तदैव हि ।।
> > आरोप्यावां विमानाग्रयं *ययुर्विष्णोः परं पदम् ।। *२०-७७ ।।
> >
> > तत्र सामीप्यमापन्नौ देवदेवस्य चक्रिणः ।।
> > दिव्यान्भोगान्भुक्तवन्तौ तावत्कालं मुनीश्वर ।। २०-७८ ।।
> >
> > *दिव्यान्भोगांस्तु तत्रापि भुक्त्वा यातौ महीमिमाम् ।।*
> > अत्रापि संपदतुला हरिसेवाप्रसादतः ।। २०-७९ ।।
>
>
> Namaste dear Subbu ji
>
> Excellent point.
>
> Do the vishishTAdvaitins etc assert that *all* those who reach vaikunTha
> never return and attain permanent sayujya etc or do only the most exalted
> amongst the vaikunThavAsi-s attain permanent sayujyam while the rest have
> to come back etc. ?
>
> Your verse 77 and that too from a vaiShNava-endorsed purANa checkmates any
> claims to attainment of sayujyam etc. or even residence being permanent.
> All gati is followed by āgamanam unless jñānam arises in brahma-loka or
> vaikunṭha etc., is the reasonable stand of advaita vedānta.
>
> Om
> Raghav
>
> >
> >
> > अनिच्छया कृतेनापि सेवनेन हरेर्मुने ।।
> > प्राप्तमीदृक् फलं विप्र देवानामपि दुर्लभम् ।। २०-८० ।।
> >
> > ~ नारदपुराणम्- पूर्वार्धः/अध्यायः २३  Below is another chapter from the
> > Narada purana:
> >
> > https://sa.wikisource.org/s/4vb   Devanagari version
> >
> > https://cloudup.com/chlxvobAueh   Kannada version with translation: p.
> 94
> >
> > https://archive.org/details/dli.bengal.10689.12945/page/n341/mode/2up
> > English translation of verse 87
> >
> > एवं दृष्ट्वा विस्मितास्ते यमदूता भयोत्कटाः ।।
> > विश्वासं परमं चक्रुर्यमेन परिभाषिते ।। २३-८६ ।।
> >
> > ततः संपूज्य मां कालो विमानशतसंकुलम् ।।
> > सद्यः संप्रेषयामास *तद्विष्णोः परमं पदम् ।*। २३-८७ ।।
> >
> > विमानकोटिभिः सार्द्धं *सर्वभोगसमन्वितैः* ।।
> > कर्मणा तेन विप्रर्षे विष्णुलोके मयोषितम् ।। २३-८८ ।।
> >
> > कल्पकोटिसहस्राणि कल्पकोटिशतानि च ।।
> > स्थित्वा विष्णुपदं पश्चादिंद्रलोकमुपगमम् ।। २३-८९ ।।
> >
> > तत्रापि सर्वभोगाढ्यः सर्वदेवनमस्कृतः ।।
> > तावत्कालं दिविस्थित्वा *ततो भूमिमुपागतः *।। २३-९० ।।
> >
> > warm regards
> > subbu
> >
> > ~
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