[Advaita-l] avidyA and mind in samAdhi

[sreenivasa murthy]

 Dear Sri Sudhanshu Shekar,
You are absolutely correct in your understanding thatthere has to be avidya in samadhi, because when onecomes out of samadhi, he sees the universe.
After coming out of the adarSnavRutti, as is the case with both sushupti and samadhi one will be having darSanavRutti after
both the experiences.
But unfortunately most of the present day vedanta teachers as well as their students do not agree with your understanding and also with very few Vedantins who hold on to that thought position. 

With respectful pranams,Sreenivasa Murthy.  

    On Sunday, 15 October, 2023 at 04:00:29 pm IST, Sudhanshu Shekhar via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:  
 
 Namaste Chandramouli ji.

For which conclusion of mine do you need reference?

akhanDAkArA-vritti in samAdhi is well accepted. That is a mano vritti. So,
mind and mano-vritti are accepted. I did not give reference because it is
obvious.

avidyAkArA-avidyA-vritti is absent in samAdhi -- avidyA-pratIti-vichAra of
advaita-siddhi.

Question remains regarding presence of avidyA in samAdhi.

If avidyA were not there, there was no need for MS to say that
avidyAkArA-avidyA-vritti is not there and hence avidyA is not perceived
during sushupti. He could have very well said - there is no avidyA in
samAdhi, so how can you perceive it.

Also, if avidyA is not there in samAdhi, how can one wake up thence.

I wanted citation for "absence of avidyA in samAdhi", if any. Not for
"absence of appearance of avidyA in samAdhi".

As per my understanding, there has to be avidyA in samAdhi.

Regards


On Sun, 15 Oct 2023, 15:12 H S Chandramouli, <hschandramouli at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Namaste Sudhanshu Ji,
>
> No references provided for your own conclusions !!!
>
> Regards
>
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> On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 8:49 AM Sudhanshu Shekhar via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
>> Namaste,
>>
>> In case of nirvikalpaka samAdhi, what exactly is the position of Advaita:
>>
>> 1. avidyA and mind are both present but neither avidyA-vritti nor
>> mano-vritti are present.
>>
>> 2. avidyA is present and mind has merged into avidyA. There are neither
>> avidyA-vritti nor mano-vritti.
>>
>> 3. Neither avidyA nor mind are present.
>>
>> 4. avidyA and mind are both present. There is no avidyA-vritti but there
>> is
>> akhandAkArA-mano-vritti.
>>
>> My understanding is (4). Kindly reply along with references.
>>
>> Regards.
>> Sudhanshu Shekhar.
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