[Advaita-l] [advaitin] RE: The fate of mind after realization

[H S Chandramouli]

Namaste Sunil Ji,

Reg  <<  When Jnana dawns in the yogi and he fully realizes
the impermanence of the Vyavahaika world, his Ahamkara reduces and finally
a stage comes when his interaction with the Vyavaharika world vanishes and
the activity of the Manah becomes defunct or nil  >>,

Can you please give a reference to any text wherein this concept has been
elaborated.

Regards

Chandramouli

On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 11:18 PM sunil bhattacharjya via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Dear Chandramouliji,
>
> you posed the question:
>
> why not say   << *he or she is in  the manah-Ananda  state >>*
>
> I regret to have to state that you have not understood the concept of
> *Manah-Shunya* at all. When Jnana dawns in the yogi and he fully realizes
> the impermanence of the Vyavahaika world, his Ahamkara reduces and finally
> a stage comes when his interaction with the Vyavaharika world vanishes and
> the activity of the Manah becomes defunct or nil.
>
> Jai Shri Krishnajiki
> skb
>
> On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 1:20 AM H S Chandramouli <hschandramouli at gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Namaste Sunil Ji,
> >
> > Reg  <<  *The Sthitaprajna or the Jivanmukta knows this very well  and
> > his or her manah is not affected by the illusionary Vyavaharika
> > world,i.e., he or she is in  the manah-shunya state >>,*
> >
> > When his or her manah is not affected by the *illusionary Vyavaharika *
> world,
> > what **exists**  and is experienced as such by him/her  is just
> > Atman/Brahman and not shunya/void.  That represents sarvAtmabhAva. Atman
> > being AnandasvarUpa,  why not say   << *he or she is in  the manah-Ananda
> >  state >>.*
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Chandramouli
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 10:53 PM sunil bhattacharjya <
> > skbhattacharjya at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Dear friends,
> >>
> >> There was a slip of pen. Please read the last sentence as follows:
> >>
> >> * The Sthitaprajna or the Jivanmukta knows this very well  and his or
> her
> >> manah is not affected by the illusionary Vyavaharika world,i.e., he or
> she
> >> is in  the manah-shunya state.*
> >>
> >> Best
> >> skb
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 8:35 PM sunil bhattacharjya <
> >> skbhattacharjya at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dear Sreenivasa Murthyji,
> >>>
> >>> Are you joking?
> >>>
> >>> In case you really got confused by reading my mail, let me assure you
> >>> that the upanishad talks about the Manah-Shunya state of the Jnani, who
> >>> reaches the state of Asamprajna Samadhi (or Nirvikalpa samadhi).
> >>>
> >>> Anyway, let me simplify it a bit. In the beginning of the Original
> >>> Bhagavad Gita, Lord Krishna told Arjuna at the very beginning of the
> >>> Original Bhagavad Gita  that what was there in the past or what would
> be
> >>> there in future is not there now and that implies   what is now is as
> good
> >>> as not there, i.e., the  Vyavaharika world is illusionary.  The
> >>> Sthitaprajna or the Jivanmukta knows this very well  and his or her
> manah
> >>> is not affected by the illusionary Vyavaharika world,i.e., he or she
> is the
> >>> manah-shunya state.
> >>>
> >>> My 2 cents
> >>> skb
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 5:43 PM 'sreenivasa murthy' via advaitin <
> >>> advaitin at googlegroups.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Dear Sri Sunil Bhattachariya,
> >>>>
> >>>>  Your 2cents coiin which you have offered is a KhOTA coin.
> >>>> When it is tested in the laboratary of Upanishads it will be found so.
> >>>> It is a useless one.
> >>>>
> >>>> ahamevEdagM sarvam || Chandogya 7-25-1
> >>>> AtmaivEdagM sarvam || Chandogya 7-25-2
> >>>> AtmA advaitaH || Mandukya mantra7
> >>>> Please study and these mantras with Sri Shankara's commentary
> >>>> and ponder over in depth.
> >>>> You yourself will realize that the statement of yours is  erroneous.
> >>>>
> >>>> Who is a Jivanmukta?
> >>>> Is he an entity?
> >>>> Have you enquired?
> >>>>
> >>>> With respectful pranams,
> >>>> Sreenivasa Murthy
> >>>>
> >>>> On Monday, 23 January, 2023 at 04:53:57 pm GMT, sunil bhattacharjya <
> >>>> skbhattacharjya at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Dear Akileshji and friends,
> >>>>
> >>>> There you are. The Jivanmukta achieves the *Manah-Shunya state*, and
> >>>> eventually gets liberated when he or she leaves the physical and the
> >>>> Sukshma bodies.
> >>>>
> >>>> My 2 cents
> >>>> Sunil K. Bhattacharjya
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 8:08 AM Akilesh Ayyar <
> >>>> akilesh at siftingtothetruth.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I’ll just note in this discussion that as far as Ramana Maharshi’s
> >>>> views — or rather my interpretation of them — the mind is ‘gone’ in
> the
> >>>> sense that it never existed. The whole egoic point of view is what
> sees
> >>>> both ignorance and the removal of ignorance, the mind ‘before’ the
> search
> >>>> and ‘after’ it. Asking whether the jnani’s mind continues after jnana
> is
> >>>> itself based in the wrong point of view; the question is founded on
> wrong
> >>>> assumptions. That is the point.
> >>>>
> >>>> Akilesh Ayyar
> >>>> Spiritual guidance - http://www.siftingtothetruth.com/
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