[Advaita-l] [advaitin] RE: The fate of mind after realization

[sunil bhattacharjya]

Dear Chandramouliji,

you posed the question:

why not say   << *he or she is in  the manah-Ananda  state >>*

I regret to have to state that you have not understood the concept of
*Manah-Shunya* at all. When Jnana dawns in the yogi and he fully realizes
the impermanence of the Vyavahaika world, his Ahamkara reduces and finally
a stage comes when his interaction with the Vyavaharika world vanishes and
the activity of the Manah becomes defunct or nil.

Jai Shri Krishnajiki
skb

On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 1:20 AM H S Chandramouli <hschandramouli at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Namaste Sunil Ji,
>
> Reg  <<  *The Sthitaprajna or the Jivanmukta knows this very well  and
> his or her manah is not affected by the illusionary Vyavaharika
> world,i.e., he or she is in  the manah-shunya state >>,*
>
> When his or her manah is not affected by the *illusionary Vyavaharika * world,
> what **exists**  and is experienced as such by him/her  is just
> Atman/Brahman and not shunya/void.  That represents sarvAtmabhAva. Atman
> being AnandasvarUpa,  why not say   << *he or she is in  the manah-Ananda
>  state >>.*
>
> Regards
>
> Chandramouli
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 10:53 PM sunil bhattacharjya <
> skbhattacharjya at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear friends,
>>
>> There was a slip of pen. Please read the last sentence as follows:
>>
>> * The Sthitaprajna or the Jivanmukta knows this very well  and his or her
>> manah is not affected by the illusionary Vyavaharika world,i.e., he or she
>> is in  the manah-shunya state.*
>>
>> Best
>> skb
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 8:35 PM sunil bhattacharjya <
>> skbhattacharjya at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Sreenivasa Murthyji,
>>>
>>> Are you joking?
>>>
>>> In case you really got confused by reading my mail, let me assure you
>>> that the upanishad talks about the Manah-Shunya state of the Jnani, who
>>> reaches the state of Asamprajna Samadhi (or Nirvikalpa samadhi).
>>>
>>> Anyway, let me simplify it a bit. In the beginning of the Original
>>> Bhagavad Gita, Lord Krishna told Arjuna at the very beginning of the
>>> Original Bhagavad Gita  that what was there in the past or what would be
>>> there in future is not there now and that implies   what is now is as good
>>> as not there, i.e., the  Vyavaharika world is illusionary.  The
>>> Sthitaprajna or the Jivanmukta knows this very well  and his or her manah
>>> is not affected by the illusionary Vyavaharika world,i.e., he or she is the
>>> manah-shunya state.
>>>
>>> My 2 cents
>>> skb
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 5:43 PM 'sreenivasa murthy' via advaitin <
>>> advaitin at googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Sri Sunil Bhattachariya,
>>>>
>>>>  Your 2cents coiin which you have offered is a KhOTA coin.
>>>> When it is tested in the laboratary of Upanishads it will be found so.
>>>> It is a useless one.
>>>>
>>>> ahamevEdagM sarvam || Chandogya 7-25-1
>>>> AtmaivEdagM sarvam || Chandogya 7-25-2
>>>> AtmA advaitaH || Mandukya mantra7
>>>> Please study and these mantras with Sri Shankara's commentary
>>>> and ponder over in depth.
>>>> You yourself will realize that the statement of yours is  erroneous.
>>>>
>>>> Who is a Jivanmukta?
>>>> Is he an entity?
>>>> Have you enquired?
>>>>
>>>> With respectful pranams,
>>>> Sreenivasa Murthy
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, 23 January, 2023 at 04:53:57 pm GMT, sunil bhattacharjya <
>>>> skbhattacharjya at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Akileshji and friends,
>>>>
>>>> There you are. The Jivanmukta achieves the *Manah-Shunya state*, and
>>>> eventually gets liberated when he or she leaves the physical and the
>>>> Sukshma bodies.
>>>>
>>>> My 2 cents
>>>> Sunil K. Bhattacharjya
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 8:08 AM Akilesh Ayyar <
>>>> akilesh at siftingtothetruth.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I’ll just note in this discussion that as far as Ramana Maharshi’s
>>>> views — or rather my interpretation of them — the mind is ‘gone’ in the
>>>> sense that it never existed. The whole egoic point of view is what sees
>>>> both ignorance and the removal of ignorance, the mind ‘before’ the search
>>>> and ‘after’ it. Asking whether the jnani’s mind continues after jnana is
>>>> itself based in the wrong point of view; the question is founded on wrong
>>>> assumptions. That is the point.
>>>>
>>>> Akilesh Ayyar
>>>> Spiritual guidance - http://www.siftingtothetruth.com/
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