[Advaita-l] [advaitin] rAma-krishna-shiva-durga etc. are not same in shAstric vyavahAra!!!

[Venkatraghavan S]

Namaste Bhaskar ji,


On Fri, 10 Feb 2023, 07:50 'Bhaskar YR' via advaitin, <
advaitin at googlegroups.com> wrote:

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>
>    - Just I was thinking of closing this discussion since on most of the
>    terms we are in agreement.  But this shruti reference I am not able to find
>    it in dashOpanishat ( I might have missed it)  Kindly share up. Reference
>    and shankara bhAshya on kAryOpAdnirayaM jeevaH kAraNOAdhireeshwaraH.
>
> It is not in the dashopaniShad. It is found in the shuka-rahasyopaniShad
in the following mantra:

कार्योपाधिरयं जीवः कारणोपाधिरीश्वरः।
कार्यकारणतां हित्वा पूर्णबोधोऽवशिष्यते॥

I also recall finding this statement in one of the pUrva / uttara nRsimha
tApini upaniShad-s a few years back. I don't recall which - but I could be
mistaken also.

If it is ok, let us leave this discussion where it is for now - the rest of
your comments below require a detailed discussion I think, which I do not
have the time at present to participate in.

Kind regards,
Venkatraghavan


>    - When it comes to upAdhi I think bhAshyakAra said upAdhi is
>    avidyAkruta.  This is not about kAryOpAdhi, this is about kAraNOpAdhi of
>    Ishwara, shankara explicitly says : evamavidyAkrutanAmarUpOpAdhyanurOdhi
>    IshwarO bhavati…subsequent observations of bhAshyakAra substantiate this
>    i.e.  even IshrOpAdhi is mere avidyAkruta hence his sarvajnatvaM,
>    sharvashatitvaM etc. valid only in avidyA kshetra.  And in
>    samanvayAdhikaraNa bhAshya bhAshyakAra talks about
>    apekshitOpAdhisambandhaM.  (ekamekamapi brahma  apekshitOpAdhisambandhaM
>    nirastOpAdhi sambandhaM cha upAsyatvena jneyatvena cha
>    vedAnteshUpadishyate.  What is apekshti upAdhi here of upAsaka??  And how
>    it is not kAryOpAdhi but kAraNOpAdhi of Ishwara??  Please clarify.
>
> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
>
> bhaskar
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