[Advaita-l] [advaitin] Caricature of Advaita, Shankaracharya, etc. by the Gaudiya head

[Kaushik Chevendra]

When it comes to logic it has no end. And hence the Shruthi vakya is taken
as the highest pramana. So taking brihadaranyaka upanishad as pramana it is
explained that brahman alone owing to avidya became many. Now the nature of
avidya and Maya are Mutual. The example is given that the illusionist or a
magician performs a trick which is seen as magic to us owing to both the
skill of the magican and the ignorance of the viewer. In the same way
isvara Maya and avidya both play a part in a jeeva viewing the world.

On Tue, 18 Oct, 2022, 4:12 pm Vishesh Bhat, <visheshlives at gmail.com> wrote:

> My apologies for wading into this discussion and hijacking it. But as a
> student of Advaita, I have failed to explain to anyone who has asked me,
> where does Maya come from? I understand asking why Maya exists is wrong as
> Maya is unreal, so the question of existence is moot. But what is the need
> for this transactional/Vyavaharika reality in the first place? I see the
> cycle of Jiva as a result of Karma but Karma is valid when in the Jiva
> cycle. What is the purpose of the Jiva cycle itself ?  I thought at first
> Srishti "is" because without that there can be no experience of anything,
> but then the question arises if Srishti is the result of a desire in
> Brahman to "experience". That is also a confusing thought as Brahman can
> have no desire. Please help me understand.
>
> On Tue, 18 Oct 2022 at 18:46, Kaushik Chevendra via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
>> Among the vaishnavas the madhwas hold a different view. That all the
>> advaitins will attain eternal hell for their wrong knowledge.
>>
>> On Tue, 18 Oct, 2022, 3:10 pm Aravinda Rao via Advaita-l, <
>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>>
>> > 😃😊😃 That is peaceful coexistence. In one meeting a vaishnava scholar
>> > referred to the idea of absolute reality and empirical reality and
>> > mockingly said, ' well, the advaitins have double standards'.
>> > Aravinda Rao
>> >
>> > On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 3:02 PM 'Bhaskar YR' via advaitin <
>> > advaitin at googlegroups.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > They are our younger brothers. We may smile at them. They have done a
>> > > great job of aggressively creating awareness about Hinduism in more
>> than
>> > > 150 countries. They include the African nations. Those who read the
>> Gita
>> > > and the Bhagavatam in whatever form will slowly come to Vedanta.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > praNAms
>> > >
>> > > Hare Krishna
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Interestingly, when I was attending the bhagavata classes here in
>> > > Bengaluru ISKCON some decades back, the ‘Das’ who was teaching
>> bhAgavataM
>> > > used to express feelings like this about mAyAvAdins, he used to
>> sincerely
>> > > pity them by saying these mAyAvAdins are downtrodden without knowing
>> the
>> > > ‘mahima’ of supreme godhead and they think that they are ultimate.
>> But
>> > one
>> > > fine day, with the blessings of compassionate lord krishna, they
>> realize
>> > > their grave mistake and  will come and take shelter under the supreme
>> > > godhead and lord krishna would save them,  until then we have to treat
>> > them
>> > > as fallen souls and should try to uplift them 😊
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
>> > >
>> > > bhaskar
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