[Advaita-l] Paul Hacker on Avidya in Brahma Sutras

Venkat C R venkat6938 at gmail.com
Thu May 19 05:58:48 EDT 2022


Nice discussion on adhyasa bhashya🙏

On Thu, 19 May, 2022, 3:10 PM Michael Chandra Cohen via Advaita-l, <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Pranam to All
>  Great, thoughtful responses. I believe SSS's Sugama, commentary on Adhyasa
> Bhasya, is the nut to crack and regardless the text makes for some
> fascinating manana. _/\_
>
>
> http://www.adhyatmaprakasha.org/php/sanskrit/sanskrit_books_toc.php?book_id=008&type=sanskrit&book_title=%E0%A4%B8%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%97%E0%A4%AE%E0%A4%BE
>
> and Sri Swami Prakashanandendraji, commenting on Sugama - catalogued by
> paragraph - 180+ talks and counting!
> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMddRSWoHnQY9kX3hpmMgw2WZg0b0fJ82
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 5:15 AM Praveen R. Bhat via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> > Namaste Venkatji,
> >
> > On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 11:13 AM Venkatraghavan S <agnimile at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Re the contention that bhAvarUpatva of avidyA is a post Shankara
> > > construct, there is a very interesting passage in the bRhadAraNyaka
> > bhAShya
> > > to the mantra 4.3.20 where the bhAvrUpatva of avidyA is indicated:
> > >
> > > तथा अविद्यायामप्युत्कृष्यमाणायाम् , तिरोधीयमानायां च विद्यायाम् ,
> > > अविद्यायाः फलं प्रत्यक्षत एवोपलभ्यते — ‘अथ यत्रैनं घ्नन्तीव जिनन्तीव’
> > इति ।
> > > When ignorance increases and knowledge is suppressed, the results of
> > > ignorance are directly perceived i.e. - "now, if he feels like he was
> as
> > > though being killed, or as though being overpowered".
> > >
> > ...
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the Brihad bhAShya quotations. There is another issue that I
> > keep pointing out to those who object to avidyA being bhAvarUpa that if
> it
> > is abhAvarUpa, then it cannot be any kind of kAraNa to anything, let
> alone
> > saMsAra. If they argue that mAyA, "different from avidyA" is the kAraNa,
> > still adhyAsa has to be accepted as a kAraNa for individuality. If
> adhyAsa
> > is same as avidyA, avidyA being abhAvarUpa, and any kind of kAraNa, would
> > leave us with no possibility of rejecting shUnyavAda wholesale! A
> > non-existent avidyA/ adhyAsa contributing to any saMsaraNa or delusion or
> > whatever it contributes to, is no better than shUnyavAda.
> >
> > Somewhere in Taittiriyabhashya, if memory serves right, Bhagavan
> > Bhashyakara says that even Naiyyayika's prAgabhAva is different from this
> > shUnya of yours to a Bauddha pUrvapakSha, the former being a padArtha
> while
> > the latter complete non-existence.
> >
> > gurupAdukAbhyAm,
> > --Praveen R. Bhat
> > /* येनेदं सर्वं विजानाति, तं केन विजानीयात्। Through what should one know
> > That, owing to which all this is known! [Br.Up. 4.5.15] */
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