[Advaita-l] Confusion about free will.
visheshlives at gmail.com
Thu May 19 04:41:29 EDT 2022
Just an addition to the previous question. There is also the matter of the
worlds attained after death. Aren't these also based on our Karma? If one
already reaps the fruits of Karma by experiencing heaven and hell,then what
is left for the next life?
On Thu, 19 May 2022, 14:01 Vishesh Bhat, <visheshlives at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dhanyavaada Praveenji,
> Your answer is very convincing. But I have two last questions, if you
> don't mind and I would greatly appreciate your answer for the same.
> What about KAmyakarma, where 'homa' and 'yagna' are carried out to ward
> off poorva papa or dosha, probably based off astrological predictions. Do
> these also work the same way as Bhakti, although we do appease other Gods
> here such as Indra, Navagrahas and so on. What is the meaning behind these
> acts suggested by the Vedas? And what of the age of a Jiva in a given life,
> is this based on our previous lives' Karma, or can it be altered through
> our present free will?But some babies die at birth which means this is not
> always possible.
> Lastly, if the present lives' Karma is governed by our acts of free-will
> in previous lives, then what about the very first life of a Jiva?? As such
> a soul has had no previous lives at all, there can be no Karma accumulated.
> Then there must be absolute free-will. Am I interpreting this rightly?
> On Thu, 19 May 2022 at 10:42, Praveen R. Bhat via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>> Namaste Vishesh ji,
>> First off, a general answer to your earlier Q. Although how exactly the
>> of karma works is impossible to understand, the general fact is that
>> prArabdha earned by a person using freewill in earlier life/ lives decides
>> the circumstances and the freewill used in current life can be used to
>> with or against those circumstances.
>> Rest inline...
>> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 10:17 AM Vishesh Bhat via Advaita-l <
>> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>> > But one question still remains, why then do we pray to the Almighty for
>> > deliverance from pain and misery?
>> Each such activity is also karma that earns puNya which, when ripe for
>> fructification, results in circumstances that reduce sorrow and bring
>> > Is such an act merely for mental strength
>> > and our own superficial comfort? There also seem to be quite a few
>> > instances of great devotees overcoming bad fates. If God is merely the
>> > dispenser of fruits, then what is the truth value of these stories of
>> > Bhakti?
>> Since bhakti can be expressed with mental, verbal and/ or physical
>> activities, it also accumulates puNya and Ishvara dispenses results for
>> those. We need that "mere dispenser of fruits" who is *unbiased*.
>> > I can sort of see the value in rituals as being means to eradicate our
>> > 'rina or debt' to nature which we incur on a daily basis.
>> That is for nityakarma which like RiNa when unpaid brings adverse
>> situations leading to sorrow. To avoid those, we have to pay such debt.
>> > But what about
>> > Bhakti?
>> As explained earlier.
>> > I apologise if this seems to be an illposed question.
>> There are no ill-posed questions when the intention is right. Best wishes.
>> --Praveen R. Bhat
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