[Advaita-l] Parmana

[Anand N]

Namaste,

Firstly, some context to the discussion at hand. The question on Pramana
which I had asked was already clearly answered.
Also as Jaldharji pointed out, it can happen that one Pramana is not enough
and hence some more pramanas
come into play in order to arrive at valid knowledge or truth.

Then Jaldharji raised an interesting point which is, if Rasa can be
considered a pramana.
So my response to that was that Aesthtetics and the Rasa experience there
plays a huge rule, since it is Ananda, which is considered
close to Brahmananda. I am not coming up with this, one can hear
Shatavadhani Ganesh speak about this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvyRTMpGH_U&t=24m58s
The talk is only for half an hour though the youtube video is a 2+ hour
recording.

Anyway as Bhaskarji beautifully pointed out, it is vishaya based and
naturally limited, to which I naturally am in agreement.


Om Namo Narayanaya,
Anand




On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 at 09:23, Bhaskar YR via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> I think the connection here is that rasa leads to ananda/happiness.
> This happiness in the aesthetic pursuit, where one loses oneself, is close
> to the atmananda that brahman is. Hence the importance of the classical
> arts which lead to rasa anubhava.
>
> it can be given the importance of pramana.
>
> That's at least the way I can reason it out for myself.
>
> praNAms Sri Ananda prabhuji
> Hare Krishna
>
> First and foremost thing here is AtmAnanda is not pramANa janita whereas
> it is its svarUpa.  The 'rasa' that originates because of travelling aloof
> from vishayasukha and nearing or realizing the svAtmAnanda is not praMANa
> in itself it is pramANa janita jnAnAnanda (to the extent similar to vishaya
> sukha/Ananda only).  This is also type of vrutti restricted to
> antaHkaraNa.  Staying there or wishing to be there in this rasa / Ananda is
> rasAsvAda which is again an obstacle in realizing the svarUpa paramAnanda.
> I think in kArikA bhAshya bhagavatpAda discusses this along with sakashAya,
> laya type obstacles that sAdhaka would encounter before realizing his
> svarUpAnanda.
>
> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
> bhaskar
>
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