[Advaita-l] Binary nature of Jnana
agnimile at gmail.com
Thu Jul 14 07:30:40 EDT 2022
Namaste Praveen ji,
I agree with this.
On Thu, 14 Jul 2022, 05:48 Praveen R. Bhat, <bhatpraveen at gmail.com> wrote:
> Namaste Venkatji,
> Pls accommodate my jumping back midway again!
>> > It is clearly brought out here that Realization is coterminous with
>> > hearing of the mahAvAkya. Hence hearing of the mahAvAkya again during
>> > repetitious shravaNa is essential for Realization.
>> Yes, agreed. I don't think Vichara Sagara would disagree with this.
> I feel you wouldn't disagree, but I would like to point out to others who
> may be reading translations where shravaNa is translated as hearing! That
> is a yaugika artha, taken with the meaning of the dhAtu shR. Yet, most of
> us know that the word shravaNa is vichArAtmaka in sampradAyarUDhi (or
> elsewhere, defined that it takes away pramANasaMshaya and manana is needed,
> defined as taking away prameyasaMshaya). To clarify, I don't think VS would
> really agree that just "hearing" the mahAvAkya results in aparokShajnAna.
> In the case of dashamastvamasi also, the situation should be conducive such
> that say the 9 are counted and immediately the 10th is lined up next who is
> counted and stated to be the 10th. Just like the verb asti w.r.t. an
> avyavahita viShaya gives rise to aparokShajnAna, not parokSha, IMO, asi
> also could give rise to parokShajnAna, such as the understanding that
> "(this person is saying that) I am the 10th" and not "I am the 10th". Just
> like in any conversation, we might say "I know what you are saying, but I
> just don't get how". That is parokSha, not aparokSha. Only when you "get
> it", it is aparokSha, akin to the light bulb glowing on the head in
> cartoons! :-)
> kaThabhAShya comes to mind, where only hearing the same vAkya, one student
> doesn't understand, another understands opposite to what is stated, yet
> another understands differently, and kaschit dhIra gets it right! To
> conclude, only when it is vichArAtmaka, not only hearing, shravaNa of
> mahAvAkya results in aparokShajnAna.
> --Praveen R. Bhat
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