[Advaita-l] shankaracharya and mutts in india

[Aravind M]

Hi all,
Kanchi paramacharya in deivatin kural again mentions "only a competent guru
should be approached...when a shisya finds out that  guru is fake or
incompetent,better do namaskaram and leave to a realised guru (he quotes a
story from scripture .i think it's upanishad

On Sat 27 Feb, 2021, 4:12 PM Vinodh via Advaita-l, <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Thank you for your response, Sri Manas Bharadwaaj.
>
> To add to what you mentioned, Sri Chandrasekharendra Saraswathi has said
> that the most important of all in one’s quest for truth is one’s shraddha
> (faith) and bhakthi (devotion) towards one’s guru, whoever that may be,
> regardless of whether that guru has an advaitic, dvaitic or visishtadvaitic
> leaning. Even if that guru himself is not a jnani, Ishwara, i.e., the
> saguna-brahmam, acting through that guru will show the sishya with
> shraddha-bhakti the right way and finally make him realize
> brahma-sakshatkaaram (experience of brahmam).
>
> Namaskaram 🙏
> Vinodh
>
>
>
> On Sat 27. Feb 2021 at 06:07, Manas Bharadwaaj via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
> > Dear Aravind Mahodaya,
> >
> > It's a pertinent question that many in the path of seeking ask.
> > The speculations that we as normal people are bound to have are endless.
> It
> > is valid knowledge to the devout seeker that both His Holiness
> > Chandrasekhara Bharathi Mahaswami of Sringeri and His Holiness
> > Chandrasekharendra Saraswathi Mahaswami of Kanchi were peerless and yet
> > each other's peers, as they held their pontifical seat during the same
> time
> > period. It is also a well-known fact amongst astikas of old generation,
> > like the revered T.K. Balasubramania Iyer, or Ramanuja Agnihotra
> > Tathachariyar, or Shri Tethiyur Shastrigal, or Shri Mannargudi Raju
> > Shastrigal, that both were representatives of Shankara and can be treated
> > no different. Additionally, also the respect and equal consideration each
> > Acharyal gave to the other, including their respective mathams, is
> > legendary.
> > Similarly, If we consider in the same manner the respect Shri
> Satchidananda
> > Shivabhinava Narasimha Bharathi Mahaswamigal of Sringeri had on Shri
> > Chandrasekharendra Sarawathi Mahaswami the VI (Shri Chandrasekharendra
> > Saraswathi Mahaswami the VII's Paramaguru) of Kanchi including Shri
> > Chandrasekharendra Saraswathi Mahaswami the VII of Kanchi, and vice
> versa,
> > only Shri Kalidasa can capture such reverence and love.
> >
> > If we go the other route of investigating into the words of devotees and
> > seers who came after them, it will be in vain. For you can see how Puri
> > Shankaracharya Nischalananda Saraswathi Mahaswami says that the Sringeri
> > Peetham had changed the date of Adi Shankaracharya's birth three times.
> > Then you can see some people and seers saying Kanchi is not a peetham
> > established by Adi Shankaracharya, while others go to the extent of
> saying
> > it's a sub-branch of Sringeri. You will find sparks flying from every
> side,
> > but no consensus dawning.
> >
> > The only solution is to consider the path adopted by the Acharyas who
> were
> > born in the 19th century and who reigned the Peetham in the early part of
> > the first half of 20th century, find the resounding truth in their
> behavior
> > towards each other (ignore any reactions and writings of Matha Bhaktas or
> > the later seers). This is an undertaking beyond the medha and tapas
> shakti
> > of majority. If it took Shri Satchidananda Shivabhinava Nrsimha Bharathi
> > Mahaswami so much tapas to re-discover Kaladi, we can only imagine it is
> a
> > fruitless task for people like us.
> >
> > Additionally, as Shri Sadashiva Brahmendral said "for a Jeevanmukta -- if
> > the sun becomes cool, the moon becomes hot, and fire burns downwards --
> > nothing surprises". We as Jignasus are aspiring for that state. Any kind
> of
> > politics is irrelevant in this current age when Dharma is becoming
> > ksheenam. In this time and age, know one important thing; towards the end
> > of Kali Yuga the holy rivers will disappear one by one, the Punya
> Kshetram
> > will dwindle to nothing in their Punyatva, and there will be not any
> mathas
> > to protect our Dharmas, except for a few Brahmanas who will be shielded
> > from the world where Kalki Bhagawan will be born. So having the larger
> > perspective in mind, we need to work towards that. Whomever one is
> > affiliated with, one must open and extend their arm to the other with
> love,
> > work to protect our Vaidika Sampradayam. This is of utmost importance. We
> > are all working to realize Paramarthika Sathyam. Let's not hold on to
> > Vyavaharika sathyam and ruin our janma. It is only needed for simple
> > loukika vishayas but should not hold our mind more than that.
> >
> > Veda Satyam | Advaitam Satyam ||
> >
> > Sarvam Shri Krishnarpanamastu!
> >
> > MB
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 1:12 AM Jaldhar H. Vyas via Advaita-l <
> > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 24 Feb 2021, Aravind M via Advaita-l wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > > Can someone mention about all the authentic shankara mutts in india
> > other
> > > > than the 4 mutts established by shankara
> > > >
> > >
> > > There is also a matha said to be founded by Gaudapadacharya in Goa.
> > >
> > > There is a big controversy about Kanchi.  Was it founded by
> > Shankaracharya
> > > or was it a branch of Shringeri that broke away?
> > >
> > > Personally I do not think it was based on the evidence as I've reviewed
> > > it but there are respectable people who believe otherwise.  And in any
> > > case its' acharyas have shown themselves to be exemplars of of Vedic
> > > dharma and worthy of respect by anyone who claims to be a follower of
> the
> > > same.
> > >
> > > But this raises the question, by authentic do you mean historically
> > > authentic or doctrinally authentic?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jaldhar H. Vyas <jaldhar at braincells.com>
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